At least she got the name right...
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Update: Bumping down the alert level. Nothing happening. All is well. ETC.
posted by Sinner @ 3:12 PM
79 comments
Don't Hire Dr. Deborah Frisch
Please don't hire Dr. Deborah Frisch, she should not be in contact with youth.
Saturday, August 26, 2006
Update: Bumping down the alert level. Nothing happening. All is well. ETC.
Advisory
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- 9/11 - 2006
79 Comments:
I'm wondering of the advisory needs a bump... Opinions?
Not really. She hasn't written anything about you other than implying she has a real life and you don't (ridiculous, I know, but this is debmentia). So, meh.
I can't out-awe Denny's life but mine this weekend has included a trip to our little cabin in the woods, lots of fresh veggies from our garden and the fruit stands on the way up into the mountains, and a fine frothy glass of Rum Squishee prepared by my beloved.
Oh man, that's good Squishee.
Ever notice how she meets dogs that have people with them? "Hello. I'm Rudy Terrier and this is my owner Princess Woowoo Chuckleberrie ". Normal people don't get introduced to stangers via their dogs. It's that Son of Sam vibe again.
I did get a comment through-Miranda Wright,discussing speaking up or remaining silent. I'm sure it went over her head.
I was going to suggest a color wheel of auras like the security level, but then realized hers is permenantly black.
The CeeCee comment- if it was one of us, good rubbing in the break-up. If it was real, even better. Both ways it told her to get lost.
Sinner -
DHD is keeping some might fine company these days. Associated with both Malkin and Goldstein?
Excellent! Everybody lift a shot of WTF Vodka® in salute.
Ever notice how she meets dogs that have people with them?
I wonder if she ever tries to sniff the person's butt.
Please don't forget to click on the ads now & then on the frontpage to help out with the light bill.
We need to get rolling on the tshirt/coffee mug idea. I'm sure some college folks would buy them as gag gifts for the psych. dept.
Bring on teh craZee
BrendaK;
"Excellent! Everybody lift a shot of WTF Vodka® in salute."
Will a toke on teh "WTF Meth pipe" suffice?
Regards;
Bilgeman:
Keepin' it teh real®.
rabbit - How does that work, exactly? Who gets the ad revenue, does it support blogger.com or what?
bilgeman - No. Put that down right now, young man. Don't make me come over there!
BrendaK
You are asking me? LOL I don't know anything about blogs but how to comment (barely).
Teh meth lab may be a new revenue stream for Debbie to consider. They already have acustomer base in Lane County. Wow! Busted for drugs would really make her daddy mad!
Rabbit -
She'd be busy sampling the product - never a good idea in that line of business.
Well, Lord help me, I've got to get ready for a blind date.
I love my mother. I could not hope to do better than to be like my mother. But she sets me for even one more blind date and I'm going to have to...there's nothing I can do here. She's my mom, for God's sake - and the most graciously, lovingly ruthless person I have ever known.
yes, but there is always the possiblity of explosions and she needs to take her self humiliation up a notch.
That is kind of you to date the blind.
Kind my butt. I never should have told her I broke up with he-who-shall-never-again-be-named.
TTFN, all.
That is kind of you to date the blind.
HEH!
Have fun on your blind date Brenda!
rabbit: Awesome!
I know, I'm slack.
I don't know if I mentioned it, but I am moving this week. Only about 6 blocks away, but we still have to haul all the crap in the house to the new house.
Anyway, that's why I haven't been very active today, not that our Deb has been doing anything report worthy...
Now, I am going to pour my bourbon and mellow out before passing out in bed.
Goodnight all!
does the pathetic, neutered sissy loser from eastern utah hang out here?
does anyone here really give a fuck that the pathetic pissant "thinner!" who runs this shithole is moving?
who the fuck are you anyway, sinner?
Lemme guess. You are a sissy like denny crane, afraid to give out your name and location.
denny boy seems to have left town after his cleverness reading the Lane County docket last week!
where u be, mr. crane? mr. goldstein? i'd luv 2 talk to you manly, manly men.
you too mr. matthew heidt, shame and embarassment to the Navy SEALS.
how are things over at niggafive, anyway, matt?
speaking of niggas, anyone see that bitch on Faux Newz? I ain't sure if she's a nigga or a wigga but she sho is a c*n*!
John Henry! Good to see you!
Do you hereby swear and/or affirm that you are not "denny crane" and also do not know mr. crane.
does john henry=denny crane?
if not, whois denny crane?
this inquiring mind DESPERATELY wants to know more about mr. crane!
puh-leeze someone satisfy me!
tell all about denny crane!!!
Yay!!! We get to talk about count cockula and how he sure seems like one of those John Mark Karr type pedophiles!
Yippee!!
Who are you, seriouslykidding? You from sadly, no or (please god please) are you a lone wolf?
Just saw on Michelle Malkins place that Jeff had a spot on Hot Air plus was even compared favorably to Colbert.
Oh the IRONY!!!! Too F'n funny. I'll be laughing about this for quite some time.
Just had to post this ver there. I know she'll never post it, but just knowing I sent it there and she read it is more than enough for me. Oh to be a fly on the wall when she see the site. I can't stand it. Seriously, I am laughing outloud.
"Wow...now this has to sting. Maybe you should get some cotton for your nose. You drift ever further into internet obscurity while waiting for your court date and your money to run out, and Jeff gets a spot on Hot Air.
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/25/the-citizen-journalist-report-ep-1/
Doesn't that hurt? Can you FEEL THAT!!!! He was even compared to Colbert favorably.
Sorry, but I'll just go to bed now laughing hysterically at your and your so called life. Hope you enjoyed the dog park and all the people there who now fear you and probably will never go there again.
Ciao"
Man, this warriordumot doesn't even keep up with the real Frisch. She gave up on "phroggy," remember? Do your homework.
seriouslykidding: you've been misinformed. Goldstein (or another commenter using his name) made comments about another commenter's younger sister, not daughter. Remember, children were always off-limits, even to the rowdy bunch on Protein Wisdom.
Remember, children were always off-limits, even to the rowdy bunch on Protein Wisdom.
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uh, so how did jeffrey todd goldstein get his picture photoshopped onto a box of the children's cereal count chocula and how did he acquire the name count cockula.
JEFF GOLDSTEIN REFERS TO HIMSELF AS COUNT COCKULA. This is an allusion to a children's cereal.
What part of PEDOPHILE don't you understand?
sinner: I'm wondering of the advisory needs a bump... Opinions?
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nah. it's going to be a slow night.
just chug teh vodka and pass out!
nothing to see here, folx!
nope! nothing at ALL going on right now.
nighty-night, folx!
seriously: If she is not ill, then it's just a stupid waste of time, but then you apparently have nothing better to do - except the one whose mom set her up on a blind date. Damn! Don't think I would have told that one. You guys have fun with your ... uh ... lives.
What do you mean about the blind date, seriously?
Nice analysis, btw. These people are pathologically cruel and pathetically lifeless. They are also DUMB as all get out!
What's a nice person like you doing in a swamp like this?
And what, pray tell, do you mean about the blind date?
Seriously -
Sorry, you lose. A commenter on Goldstein's blog made that comment in response to another commenter. Nobody on Goldstein's blog condoned that language. Anyone who is going to comment on Goldstein's blog knows they are getting into rough water. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Unlike so many wacked-lib sites, Goldstein does not edit or moderate comments any more than absolutely necessary. He's a fan of the whole 'free speech' thing.
I bet you still believe in the Easter Bunny and the 'Fable of The Plastic Turkey,' don't you? It's about time you moved out of your mom's basement and got a job. It would drastically improve ability to recognize the real world.
oy gevult, seriously. you waste your time reading sadly no AND lipid stupidity?
uh, brenda. you are supposed to be slamming ME, not seriously.
focus, brenda.
seriously:
You might be right about that. From what I understand, the "private places" comments was from several years ago, so there would have to be a lot of digging through PW's archives to dig that out.
wdm:
You just might be the real thing. Your reading comprehension skills are about as gifted as are your research skills. Count Cockula was photoshopped by another blogger after Goldsteins "cockslapping" remarks to a different blogger. Goldstein has a, shall we say, inclusive sense of humor, so found the pun and picture funny. It was funny and clever.
Oh, Deb, so you know - a blind date is one that is set up by a third party and is almost universally a bust.
Seriously -
I was obligated to go out and have coffee with someone to make my mother happy, so I did so. In the end, it's a small thing enough thing to do. Because I love my mother. Is that a foreign concept to you?
I can assure you that I have no problem whatsoever getting a date on my own, if that addresses your intended slam.
Goldstein has a, shall we say, inclusive sense of humor, so found the pun and picture funny. It was funny and clever.
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okay. the point is that jeffrey todd goldstein accepted the monikor of count cockula knowingly and willingly.
therefore, any riffs off of that joke are also acceptable to mr. jeffrey todd goldstein. by laughing at and adopting count cockula, a joke about a children's cereal, mr. goldstein signaled that he was willing to merge his two lives (stay at home dad and blogger) and thus, all references to satchel are perfectly justified on account of how gleefully he adopted the sexualization of a children's cereal.
if that addresses your intended slam.
nope. somehow, i thought that one of y'all and or your mother was going to pretend to be a blind date for ME.
Apparently, I misunderstood the reference.
My bad.
If you're going to be a 'word warrior', you aught to be able to understand the concept of a pun.
Oh, wait, you're humor impaired. BTW, that's gotta make being a stand up comic difficult.
Deb, you can't get a date even with CraigsList.
Seriously - hubby bought you your trailor? With a sinkhole basement? How...special for you. Nice you were able to get out of mom's place before you were 40.
Tough you don't like her enough to do even a small favor for her.
http://warriordumot.blogspot.com/
Seriously, I apologize. I would be devastated to lose either of my parents.
It does sincerely piss me off, however, to get slammed for doing my mom a favor.
The only reason I commented about it here was to let everyone know that I was leaving and would be back later.
wdm:
therefore, any riffs off of that joke are also acceptable to mr. jeffrey todd goldstein. by laughing at and adopting count cockula, a joke about a children's cereal, mr. goldstein signaled that he was willing to merge his two lives (stay at home dad and blogger) and thus, all references to satchel are perfectly justified on account of how gleefully he adopted the sexualization of a children's cereal.
We got the real thing here folks. This is called "a reach," but typically standard in frischian "logic." I also like how she keeps using Todd as the middle name, which she must have seen in the legal documents from the restraining order.
So, who sicced the new charges on you?
inquiring minds want to know!
Ability to understand irony, sarcasm, logic. All signs of higher intelligence, all missing in Frisch's make up.
Here's a hint, Debee: The joke is not about the cereal.
Putz.
Seriously -
What exatly was your point? You wanted to defend a woman who wants to make a living at being a public disgrace?
(Thunk, thunk) Anybody there? How amazing. Both wordditz and seriously disappear at the same time.
Warrior, leave Satchel out of the discussion. Children are off-limits all the time.
Sorry. I am being stalked by Jeff's peeps. You guys bring up my ex. Jeff embraced the count cockula thing.
satchel is more than fair game.
Looks like seriouslykidding wanted to see the trainwreck, but since Frisch doesn't allow for contemporaneous posting, she probably figured she could get her questions answered here. She should have checked out the other threads: it is Saturday night, geez.
I just came back myself and wanted to check the dead thread, and whoa!
wdm:
What does your restraining order have to say about attacking the kid on other sites besides Protein Wisdom? Is your lawyer on speed dial?
whoa is right vodka thirty!
What does your restraining order have to say about attacking the kid on other sites besides Protein Wisdom?
Nothing. Besides, I'm not "attacking" the kid. I am discussing the question of whether discussing the kid violates the RO. I contend it does not. Mr. Goldstein's counsel contends that it does. It is a fascinating legal question whether Mr. Goldstein can legally prohibit me from referring to Satchel or whether he can legally require sully and scully and sinner and whoever else owns THIS blog to delete any and all references to Satchel.
I believe seriouslykidding was actually looking to chastise us for being so hard on po', po' pitiful Debee.
She just got caught up in the moment.
Debee What does a toddler have to do with your adult-if-immature ex girlfriend? You are such a waste of precious oxygen.
wdm:
Okay... what would you like to say about Satchel?
Oh, no. She should NOT be invited to say anything at all about a child.
I don't care if she's digging herself deeper into a legal morass, that is just beyond the pale.
We need some kind of paging system to get hold of Sinner.
This is all headed down the wrong path.
brendak:
You're right, I withdraw the question.
Frischy, what do you think about Mrs. Goldstein?
Just kidding!
Hmm... let's talk about the weather. What's the color of the sky in your world?
warriordumot or whoever the hell you are, you are not invited to discuss a minor.
Vodka -
She's not going to get that reference, if she's really Frisch. Frisch is totally ignorant of popular culture.
Wow, 63 comments! What the hell happened?
Brenda:
So, this warriordumort seems like the real thing? And a lefty lurker too? How blessed are we? Is she still writing or what?
Joe -
It got really intense for a few minutes there.
Whoever the hell this Frischlike lurker is, he/she/it should be roasted over a slow fire.
How many times does one person have to be told not to DISCUSS A CHILD.
Yu sick, demented piece of filth. A child IS NEVER fair game. You show a distinct lack of intelligence and all the makings of a pedophile and criminal. Tell us, how did you pay the 4000 bucks? What were you brought to court for? Who else wants your criminal ass incarcerated? How did it feel to wear those cuffs? Do you think it will feel good the next time? How long does it take you to understand that you are not intelligent? How lng will it take till you understand that ultimately you will be a resident of Oregon State Penile System?
You are such a brave person right? Always calling others cowardly and such.
I challenge you to go up to anyone with children and make similar comments. I dare you. I have dared you before and yet all you show is what a sniveling piece of gutter tripe you are. Yelling away at a keyboard and hiding behind your computer. You sit alone and alienated in your little hovel, an embarrassment to your family, without a friend in the world.
No one is laughing with you. We are all laughing at you. You are just too retarded to know the difference.
So comeon little poobutt. Show the world how much of a coward you aren't Show the world the lengths and depths you will go to prove how committed to the cause you are. Tell all you little chalitan. Tell the world.
I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with you. You are a waste of skin. A coward. A degenerate pedophile. I never wish bad things on people, but you aren't a person, and I can't wait until the weight of every piece of evil you have committed comes crashing down around you and you finally go to far and suffer whatever consequences you have earned 10 fold.
Look in your miror. You know you can't even look into your own eyes without seeing a hateful, hatefilled loathesome piece of fecal matter. You know that you never again will feel loved by anyone again, for your own crimes and deeds will follow you forever, and all anyone will ever need do is look you up on line and see you. You have only yourself to blame.
Answer my questions scum.
Deb,
I hope the day will come when you'll look back with gratitude on the life you escaped.
I'm deeply worried. The trajectory you are on now will lead you to depths of ruin that makes your curent circumstances pale.
Change while it's still in your ower to do so. otherwise your choices will soon be made by others.
For example, get used to hearing "anything you say can and will be used against you." And get used to this thread appearing as Exhibit 666 in the already burgeoning pile of incrimination.
You're already on the legal radar. The countdown is already ticking.
Jesus, it looked like she really was going to say something about the child. Just totally unhealthy.
Boy, she doesn't like those Sadly, No kids at all.
Too bad she lives in Eugene.
Some North Portland Therapy would do her some good.
we have someone from Eastern Utah here?
Sulla:
That's Frisch's "clever" code for Colorado. She's under the impression that Jeff Goldstein hangs out here and that we're all huge Protein Wisdom fans. Cuz, ya know, it's all about her, right?
I do NOT CARE how disturbed or insane or hateful or loathsome or mentally deficient this bitch is, it shouldn't take this much effort to get the freaking retard to understand that a child is never, ever fair game.
It's like she thinks if she keeps arguing her legal 'beliefs' long enough they'll just become true.
worddumont, you are morally wrong, legally wrong and eternally wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. End of goddamed discussion.
Brenda:
Agreed. Sick, sick, sick.
Sulla -
What is 'North Portland Therapy', and does it hurt a bunch?
Hey guys,
I want to apologize for almost letting that thing spew more disgusting stuff about Jeff's child. Especially with the resurfacing of the Jonbenet story recently. I've been lurking awhile, but I never thought I'd see the trainwreck with front row seats.
Joe,
Ah. Thanks. Debinitions are hard to follow sometimes.
I'm still digging through this trainwreck of a thread.
To seriouslykidding - to me, crass references to kids are out of bounds, and I don't care if the author is someone I've encountered only from online comments, or my own flesh and blood. I condemn it without reservation.
also to seriouslykidding - I did run my participation by my counselor today, because she asked if I thought I was doing so obsessively and I honestly didn't know. I'll let her decide.
I know at the very least my participation here isn't the most enlightened, mature thing I've ever done. But I hang around chiefly because of the bonds formed with people united in the sincere belief that this woman needs to be prevented from teaching students in any way except as a case study in abnormal psychology.
If she's sick I want her to get help. If she's simply evil, then I'm engaged in an outpost skirmish in the global war on terror - because she's been terrorizing individuals online AND off for years.
This far, and no further. We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.
That may sound like mere hyperbolic rhetoric, but I am dead serious. I want to help her get well, or stop her from further harming the innocent. Because good men/women either make their stand against evil, or evil triumphs by default.
read the comments in this thread. Compare the regulars to "the warrior of word." We do have fun at her expense - but most of us never heard of her before her protein wisdom meltdown, and would never have bothered with her until she crossed the line - and KEPT ON CROSSING IT.
CONTINUES TO even to this day, in spite of everything it's cost her.
It may seem that we're bullying her. Rather, I see iit as a bunch of John and Jane Q. Public folks, an army of Davids, rising up against a longtime web bully and taking the fight to her on her own terms. If she doesn't like the taste of it, it's simply karmic equilibrium establishing itself.
Vodka -
It's just that she would have taken that as an actual invitation, and played it into her justification for her continued bad behavior.
I'm sure you didn't intend that; you just have to watch out for her bizarre and convoluted take on the world.
Joe -
Re your earlier comment, I don't think seriouslykidding is a lefty lurker. She seemed to be more concerned that people treat each with civility.
worddumot is definitely a lurker, however.
Sulla:
Well put. Very well put. I've always been in the same camp as Sinner: we are here to force an intervention. Frisch needs help. Attention to her site feeds her delusions and her symptoms. She doesn't post virtually all the comments that get sent to her anyway, so post them here. As long as we bleed the attention away from her, we're doing our jobs.
And part of why I wrote the Lexicon is because culture broke out. We've made friends here. This place is not just about Frisch: she's the muse, the conversation starter. For awhile, I thought we were just about done, but teh crazy® continues and she still hasn't hit rock bottom.
Vodka:thirty -
Don't worry about it. When I wasn't sure it was her, I spat German at her because I didn't know what to say.
Amen, Brenda.
Amen, Joe.
"north portland therapy," as I recall, was when youngsters a little too full of themselves smart talked the cops, who would give them a taste of the other side of the tracks - drop them off, and drive around the block.
North Portland wasn't the kids' usual hangout, and intimidating for someone whose "tough act" had been tried out only in the suburbs.
No fatalities, and in most cases just wounded pride. five minutes in Ghetto Country Safari could change your life.
Well, after all that "excitement," I'm tired. Gotta get up early to ride with new gear. 'Night all!
Extra smoochies to Deb! [yecchh, phbuh]
Deb Frisch:
The golden rule of blogging is: Don't Drink and Post.
Your additions to Irish Whiskey's poem pretty much confirm that you are an alcoholic. Whatever it is you did to maintain prior to your infamous breakdown, please go back to it. AA has had phenomenal success drying out drunks. If that doesn't work for you, then please go to a dry-out clinic; join up with Scientology; take a slow boat to China --- whatever, just deal with it.
an observation, sinner.
When you say "lowering the alert level," she does something extreme.
tongight was high-stakes Batfrisch. not quite "Yeeargh!" but bad enough to forward to the plaintiff's attorney in CO, along with server logs if available.
This is evidence.
The golden rule of blogging is: Don't Drink and Post.
Uh oh.
BrendaK:
If you're still reading the thread, looks to me like you set Frisch off on an envygasm when you mentioned that you had a date.
I reckon that Frisch doesn't have many of those, so she sits in her cabin and plays with stuffed toys, typing away on her computer...
'Tis a bit of a jealous one, is the Frischker.
Methinks the fact that JG has wife and child and was a real honest-to-god professor, all things that Frisch will never have, is what caused the cartoon soundtrack to start plaing in her defective coconut and caused her to attack his family.
Ain't menopause a bitch?
On a sidebar note, after my acquaintance with teh cray-zee one, I'm more convinced than ever that there really is a market for a line of dishwasher-safe rubber sex toys.
I'll have to get my people at Daewoo Heavy Industries to start work on the "Frischinator" model.
Regards;
BrendaK -
The nasty comment you attributed to a "Goldstein commenter" was made anonymously and to this date has never been identified.
Jeff Goldstein did make a polite request for the ISP from the other blogger to compare against his visitor logs, with the intention of rebuking said commenter, with the express intention of figuratively ripping that person a new one.
However, he was never provided the ISP or any other identifying information.
The commenter could be anyone - Deb Frisch, even - or some kind of sockpuppet.
I do think it's a fair criticism that PW, and Goldstein, have had their crass, even offensive moments.
The difference, though, is that Jeff doesn't endlessly rehash those comments. He seems to forget the off-the-cuff slams, and looks for the next peak to scale. Or gutter to swim in. Whatever you think of him, he's not a broken record. He doesn't placate. Even the Friday armadillo thing is variations on a theme.
I wasn't paying much attention during the whole thersites kerfuffle. whoever said that about his kid was way out of line. But I KNOW that Jeff didn't say it. He even offered to help track the idiot down, but Thersites either would not or could not (sinner mentioned that Blogger comments aren't tracked by IP, and I imagine other blog software is similarly non-robust - or the user of it is. I use moveable type but couldn't tell you what it can do. My blog isn't that active, and it's not been critical to learn how.)
When Jeff said that thing about someone's sister, I wasn't paying any attention to the blog. But there's a big difference between typical schoolyard taunts, or adults dissing each other, and deliberately targeting a minor.
Jeff didn't go out of his way to say, "do you have a sister? is she hot? how old is she?" and upon finding out she's young, launch into a series of outrageous, premeditated comments about her.
And he certainly did not pound on the topic for weeks afterwards. "Hey, YOU'RE the one who acts like a () online talking about your baby sister. sicko."
Big, big difference. Had Jeff done so, I'd have condemned it. Had he continued to bring it up, day after day, I imagine there would be a site rising up now actively opposing his behavior.
Reasonable people agree that Deb is not reasonable - even if they would agree on almost nothing else.
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