Monday, August 28, 2006

We have seen this before from Dr. Deb, but it bears repeating:
In a real democratic blogosphere, comments would be edited and sick, murderous, on the way to nazi land comments like this would be deleted and the perpetrators reprimanded.
Dr. Frisch seems to think that censorship is Democracy and free speech is "on the way to nazi land".

As has been noted before, this is most certainly only true in DebLand®.

Freedom of speech is the concept of being able to speak freely without censorship. It is often regarded as an integral concept in modern liberal democracies.
Oscar Wilde:
Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people.

Nazis and censorship:
Once they succeeded in ending democracy and turning Germany into a one-party dictatorship, the Nazis orchestrated a massive propaganda campaign to win the loyalty and cooperation of Germans. The Nazi Propaganda Ministry, directed by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, took control of all forms of communication in Germany: newspapers, magazines, books, public meetings, and rallies, art, music, movies, and radio. Viewpoints in any way threatening to Nazi beliefs or to the regime were censored or eliminated from all media.

I know which side I am on, what side are you on Dr. Deborah Frisch?


At 8:33 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

“In a real democratic blogosphere, comments would be edited and sick, murderous, on the way to nazi land comments like this would be deleted and the perpetrators reprimanded.”

Hmm, Is there such as a thing as a cyber-firing squad?

Nah, there must be some other way. Hey, I got it; the offended party could get a court ordered…a court ordered….

Oh Crap! VBSers, help me out here. What is the name of that thingy that we could use to control “sick, murderous, on the way to nazi land comments” made by short-eyed lesbians who troll the Internet.

A “Retraining Sporter”? No,

A “Refraining Sorter”? No, no…

A “Retaining Snorter”? No, no, no…

I can’t remember. We’ll just have to sentence them to probation here with all the VBSer kids. Deb, er those convicted will have to come here acting all high and mighty trying to act superior and we’ll all take turns handing her ass to her in unfair exchanges of wit.

At 8:47 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

She's daring "blog owners" to "censor" her so she can go whining that she's being maltreated by the wingnuts. Kill her comments and she's being censored. Ban her and she's being oppressed.

I like what Sinner's doing. Just let her come, spew, show the world even further that she deserves no chance to stand again in front of a classroom. Ignore her stupid blog and her stupid books. IF she keeps ranting there about previous colleagues, the arrests will keep coming. Eventually someone will intervene: the best case scenario is her family, the worst would be the law.

At 8:58 AM, Blogger IllinoisRepublican said...

She's back up and running. Well, limping along anyway. She thinks the court case may have been dismissed. They are just keeping that little secret from her as apparently neither her lawyer or the courts have informed her. What a dolt.

At 8:58 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

I agree blizzard.

She posts nothing that I put on her page anymore. Sinner posts almost everything here that doesn't go over the edge of decency.

Who's enlightened and who’s the tyrant?

At 9:13 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

Yeap I just went over there and looked (I know, I know... ) and it says this:

DHDDF is an anti-me blog that raises funds for Jeff Goldstein's legal battle against me, harasses me, cyberstalks me (e.g., Denny Crane re: Lane County docket), analyzes, mocks, disparages and roots against me. Oh yeah and tries to encourage me to denton myself. (NOTE: I tried to insert a hyperlink to Denise Denton's Wikipedia page but it is gone! Her page has been dentoned! Yikes!)

To be perfectly honest, I really don't like DHDDF all that much. However, it is a place to discuss the ongoing legal battle between Mr. Goldstein and me since I'm pretty sure I can't get in trouble talking about the ongoing legal matter in a forum set up by the victim's friends to harass me! [Note: Although Mr. Goldstein refers to his blog as protein wisdom, i prefer to call it lipid stupidity.]

So if you are interested in the status of the legal proceedings in Denver, go to DHD-squaredF.

If you are interested in an almost unbelievable, super-scary demonstration of Freudian projection of the Jungian shadow, go to DHD^2F and read what the creeps think of me.

My original post at Protein Wisdom on July 4 read like this:

oops. Mr. Jeffrey Todd Goldstein has deleted or hidden all of the archives of his cesspool prior to July 9.

How the heck can I defend myself in a court of law if the man has deleted the record?

I'm thinking the case has already been dismissed. No way Jeff and "visualize whirled cockquest" would show up for the court date in November now that they've deleted the offending material. Jeff's shysta is ALMOST as dumb as he is, but not quite.

Come to think of it, why didn't Jeff delete the disgusting references to his tyke the next morning? Why did Jeff amplify and perpetuate the focus on the death and/or molestation of Satchel? Why did it take Jeffrey Todd Goldstein almost two months to figure out how to press DELETE on lipid stupidity?

ANYHOO, in my original post at lipid stupidity that was mocking Jeff about his position on the Iraq war, I ended by writing:

got neurons?
wow. there is no part of NO that I don't hear now.

At 9:24 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

Is the girl off her cycle?

Are we going to see a rare mid-week teh Cray zee?

At 9:30 AM, Blogger Rabbit said...

I was going to thank Deborah Ellen Frisch,PuD. for sending readers our way. Then I remembered that she doesn't have any readers.

I know I have a lot of typos, sometimes, but I really did mean to spell PhD. as PuD. Short for Puddinghead. Deb is just a Talking Tapioca. (Think John Houseman in "The Paper Chase" saying "..a mind filled with MUSH!"

At 9:33 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

Oh Sweet Jesus Up a Tree; now she's going to take control of her defense:

Joe, You don't get it. I understand that jeff could use the posts as evidence, even once he takes them down. but his entire legal case against me is based on what he alleges I wrote on protein wisdom. he needs to provide me with all of that information if he proceeds in the legal case against me.

i guess i need to call my lawyer and ask for:

a. a copy of the police report JG filed
b. a floppy disk with protein wisdom from July 3, 2006 --August 3 or so when I was served with the temporary restraining order.

in order to proceed.

At 9:51 AM, Blogger Mariposa said...

"Sweet Jesus up a tree"? That's a new one for me. I like it!

Deb sure is special.

At 9:56 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Well, it looks like she really wound herself up this weekend. No progress on accepting responsibility for her actions, still blaming other people for not deleting her comments. "Why couldn't you protect me from myself?"

Still no mention of her criminal arraignment. Get this "Frame" Ms. Frisch: this site is no fansite of Protein Wisdom, this is a fansite of your spiraling personal and professional life. We provide a public information portal on your online, and publicly accessible activities so potential employers know as much as they can about the person they may be hiring.

You keep trying to "frame" your recent struggles in terms of Goldstein's restraining order, but there is so much more behavior than this to consider. You keep referring to the activities on Protein Wisdom on the weekend around July 4th, but what about the disgusting comments you made about the Goldstein's wife and child, not only on Protein Wisdom, but on Ace of Spades? It was this behavior that began the restraining order proceedings. And your "logic" that restraining orders against someone a person has never met is laughable since media celebrities deal with this stalking and harrassing behavior from "fans" they have never met either.

You want to keep talking about Jeff Goldstein, go ahead. His situation is not the only thing on our plate. You bring up Goldstein, I'll bring up criminal arraignment on stalking and harrassment.

Just for clarification, I'm not the Joe that posts over there, although I like his style.

At 9:56 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

I'd like to claim credit but that's a coinage of one Miss Natalie Lileks, who apparently inherited her father's turn of phrase.

At 10:03 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

Chell said at SWP

” As for the kids over at donthire, it's just good vacant-minded entertainment, like watching gerbils run around on their wheel. ;)”

Scene opens, somewhere on the Moors, our heroes are hiding behind a rock…

Deb: There they are!
Chell: Where?
Deb: There!
Chell: What, behind the Gerbils?
Deb: It is the Gerbils.
Chell: You silly attention-whore!
Deb: What?
Chell: You got me all worked up!
Deb: Well, they’re no ordinary Gerbils! They’re VBSers!
Chell: Sneer.
Deb: They’re the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodents you ever set eyes on!
Chell: You twit! I soiled my armour I was so scared!
Deb: Look, those Gerbils have a vicious streak a mile wide! They’re killers!
Chell: Get stuffed!
Deb: They'll do you up a treat, mate, they’ve got a nasty wit about them and their poems observe the standard tempo rules. They even know what a real double-ententre is.
Chell: Oh, yeah? Mangy “You Jeaner” git out of my way!
Deb: I'm warning you!
Chell: What'll they do, nibble your bum?
Deb: They’ve got huge, sharp teeth, they can leap about and sock-puppet, look at the bones!
Chell: Right! Silly little bleeder. One Gerbil stew comin' right up!
Deb: I’m warning ya!
Chell: Aaarrugh (Imagine Howard Dean scream)!
Deb and Chell: Run away, run away!

At 10:07 AM, Blogger warriordumot said...

still blaming other people for not deleting her comments.
you guys make me laugh sometimes.

At 10:07 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Ah, Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Just awesome Hawk.

"With the huge, sharpt teeth!"

At 10:08 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


What about those stalking and harrassment charges last week? What's your version of events? Who were the little Eichmann's that called the jackboots on you?

At 10:09 AM, Blogger OttavaRima said...

chell and deb. what a pair.

funny stuff, hawk!

At 10:14 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...


I am so glad to see you here. Why won't you post my analysis of your so-called "double-ententre" of Ms Goldstein that you seem to hate by default?

Should I post it again here so you can comment?

At 10:18 AM, Blogger Rabbit said...

DebChell. The dancing monkey duo. Between them, maybe 2 brain Chells. I mean brain cells.

At 10:20 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

I'm still wondering if the mysterious "Diana" who's popped up a few times in Deb's posting isn't the filer of the stalking charges in Oregon. The post calling her out by name goes missing but it's still available in various archives and caches ... her lawyer probably has it on disk!

At 10:25 AM, Blogger Rabbit said...

I'd like to know more about complaints about PuD over the years in Eugene. Maybe someone else who has moved away could fill us in.
Also, it was alluded to that there is more we done know in the Lane County Court/Police Records.

At 10:50 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...


It's time to admit it girl. Your entire life has been commandeered by a small herd of cute, fuzzy, mind-controlling rodents.

Sinner Gerbil hits F1 on Gerbil-sized keyboard. Deb wakes up and goes to keyboard.

Sulla Gerbil hits F2 on Gerbil-sized keyboard. Deb boots up her Pentium 1 laptop that her parents bought her for college and awaits further instructions.

Tuna Gerbil hits F3 on Gerbil-sized keyboard (which is fin-accessible) and Deb states in Zombie-like state, “I hear and obey, Gerbil Master”. Takes a hit off of her WTF Vodka bottle.

Fred Gerbil hits F4 on Gerbil-sized keyboard. Deb starts low-level rant on SWP about ephing joos and dupes to her peeps.

Joe Gerbil (Not Joe-Cartoon Gerbill) hits F5 on slightly larger Gerbil-sized keyboard. Deb starts moving up the Frisch-Meter with spittle now clearly present on laptop screen.

Brendak Gerbil hits F6 and Deb is sure she sees a Gerbil running across her keyboard and starts pounding it with her fist.

Diana Gerbil senses teh cray zee is imminent hits F7 and offers some poetry tips.

How does that saying go? Oh yeah…


(sorry if I forgot anyone)

At 11:02 AM, Blogger IllinoisRepublican said...

Guess I don't get a gerbil. Which gerbil is in charge of poo flinging? *Ahem*

At 11:03 AM, Blogger warriordumot said...

Should I post it again here so you can comment?

Go 4 it!

At 11:03 AM, Blogger Staci said...

Well, my socks have gone unnoticed except the flying nun one.

At 11:04 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


Tell us about the charges of stalking and harrassment.

Go 4 it!

At 11:05 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

Did you ever find Diana Pien?

At 11:05 AM, Blogger warriordumot said...

I'm still wondering if the mysterious "Diana" who's popped up a few times in Deb's posting isn't the filer of the stalking charges in Oregon.
I thought the Dianna poster had two n's. Why is she mysterious? I kind of like her. Where is she? She has been gone - maybe she went camping or hiking - it is the last official week of summer, folx!

Dianna, please come back!

Hi Chell, good to see you!

Where is dubster? John Henry? Denny Crane? Amanda? Sinner? Sulla?

Come on all you peeps, tawk 2 me.

At 11:05 AM, Blogger Staci said...


What's the weather like?

At 11:05 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

Yes, yes....

Illinois Gerbil goes right for the triple-dog-dare, hits F12 and Deb starts flinging Poo.

At 11:05 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Hey illinoisrepublican:

How long has it been since you've been able to post comments over there? Are you still able to? She said she was going to ban you, but we know her memory isn't that great.

At 11:07 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


Please "tawk" about the harrassment and stalking charges. The "peeps" and the "folx" want to know.

At 11:10 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

….and then Staci the renegade SCUBA diving Gerbil hits CTRL, ALT, DELETE on her water-proof and pressure-tested to 120 feet keyboard and Debs head explodes.

(I got nothing else)

At 11:10 AM, Blogger OttavaRima said...

i've been staying away from her site because she nauseates me.

now she's here and i feel like i need a shower.

slimed. slimed by the deb monster.

At 11:11 AM, Blogger openacanatuna said...

la Frischie: Come on all you peeps, tawk 2 me.

Nope, we want teh crazy. No teh crazy, no tawk.

You don't run the show here. We do (or more accurately, sinner does). In any case, it ain't you.

At 11:11 AM, Blogger IllinoisRepublican said...

She hasn't banned me. Not even sure if she knows how. Not only have comments under my sockpuppets gotten through, but also under this name. She likes to threaten people. But that's as far as it gets.

At 11:12 AM, Blogger Rabbit said...

May as well talk about it & save us the trouble of digging it up.
That is our only interest in you.

At 11:14 AM, Blogger tim said...

We really would like to know why the arrest happened. What were the circumstances? Are the charges groundless? What's your defense?

At 11:16 AM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Good afternoon, VBSers!

I see you have been spending your time further training the monkey. Good job!

Staci - sounds like an excellent weekend. That salad sounded excellent. (on a side note, in answer to your question, not gonna happen)

At 11:17 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...


This is the thread I wanted your professional opinion on.

You said...

"I don't get it. And for the record, could you all please acknowledge how funny my "c**t cockula= the count without the O joke" is.

acknowledge it, creeps.

do it now.Well Deb,"

You told us that that was a "double ententre" over on your site. Then I posted...

Let me just say that your joke about Ms. Goldstein that you claimed to be a “double entente”, (and that you seem to be so proud of) was pretty indicative of how freaking stupid you were.

A double entente is a play of words that demonstrates at least two meanings and unlike your bilge, is funny. Allow me to demonstrate.

WW: Oh, I see that you are holding a gun.

OP: Yup, Aint she a beaut?”

WW: Wow, you know guns are dangerous; you better let me have it.

OP: Let you have it?

WW: Yes, let me have it!


PHD sheesh, Please tell me your PHD wasn’t in literature…ephing moron.

Please explain this all to me.

At 11:21 AM, Blogger mupsocket said...

Beaker, please align the Monkey Poo Deflection Screen with the Monkey Detection Device.

At 11:22 AM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


How about a triple entente (deb, VBS'ers, and Protein Wisdom?), instead of a double entendre? Meh, never happen. Goldstein is being responsible by not commenting publicly on the legal proceedings, and since Frisch insists on digging this hole, we'll keep on handing out shovels, backhoes, whatever she wants.

At 11:24 AM, Blogger Staci said...

I don't like blind dates either, but....

I met my current guy on kind of a blind date. I went with a friend to meet some guy she had met a few nights earlier to be her wingman. Well, the guy brings a friend for me, which I was not thrilled at. I can meet my own, if I wanted. Well this guy shows up, named Bruno, and doesn't even speak fricken English. So after some very broken spanish, I go take a walk to check out the boats on the water. And who do I meet, my guy
! So ya never know.

At 11:25 AM, Blogger John Henry said...

YooHoo, Deb! Here I am! Over here!

Doctor Deb sez:

i have created a south(west)paw savings account at my bank oregon community credit union. The routing number is 323 274 461. The account number is 482 955. The account is completely separate from my regular account.


How about this, we all send a dollar for deposit to the account. This will cause the credit union pain (it costs them more than a dollar to process the deposit) and they aske her to close the account.

My check is going out this afternoon.

John Henry

At 11:26 AM, Blogger tim said...

Teh Deb spaketh:

"positive cash flowing

"I am a lot happier today than I was a week ago, peeps. I have come to the realization that my top priority ought to be increasing my cash flow. I am reading want ads in the Register Guard and craigslist eugene. I am going to ad some google ads, amazon links for books and cd's right after i finish this post.

"i have created a south(west)paw savings account at my bank oregon community credit union. The routing number is 323 274 461. The account number is 482 955. The account is completely separate from my regular account."

One advantage of this, over teh Tip Jar, is that we could (taking a cue from Michael Adams) give her our $0.02 :)

It's just like amazon or paypal, only no money gets skimmed by the credit card company, amazon or paypal."

At 11:27 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...


If you won't answer my serious question about what you "think" a double ententre is (and not just a sophmoric and not funny name-calling letter-play joke aimed at a woman you don't even know), then answer this question.

Who is flinging Poo at your site while you're flinging Poo here? (Poo capitalized because the Poo is always better here)

At 11:29 AM, Blogger tim said...

Oops! Please omit the last three lines of my above post: I typed my own comment (about the $0.02) in the middle of the post. :(

At 11:29 AM, Blogger John Henry said...

And how crazy is that? She can't find Denice Denton in Wikipedia? Most people, on seeing it not come up initially, would think "Hmmmm.. wonder if I spelled it wrong?" Before leaping to the conspiracy conclusion. "Her page has been dentoned! Yikes!"

Doctor of Philosophy indeed.

John Henry

MASTER of DEB! (She's ma bitch!)

At 11:29 AM, Blogger tim said...


Dang! You scooped me.

How about $0.02, rather than a dollar? :)

At 11:29 AM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Even if it is a separate account...

It's still in her name. How stupid-to-the-bone is giving out banking info to all and sundry.

I'm just astonished! And not in a good way.

At 11:31 AM, Blogger Staci said...

Shoot, you guys got it first. I had to type my comment for her though. And I got in!

At 11:32 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...


Knock, knock...

Hawk Gerbil hits F11 on military-spec Gerbil sized keyboard.



Can one of you I.T. VBSers come check out my system. I think I got a malfunction.

At 11:34 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

Is she gone?

At 11:34 AM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Can you get .02 money orders? I'd like to participate, but damned if I'd send her a personal check.

At 11:36 AM, Blogger BrendaK said...

hawksp -

She'll be back. DHD ownes Deb (in partnership with John Henry, of course).

She can no more stop dropping by than she can quit mangling poetry.

At 11:37 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...



At 11:44 AM, Blogger Hawksp said...

I wouldn't send that woman a darn thing that could give her a clue as to who I was.

Tracers points both ways.

At 11:47 AM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Hawksp -

And hooah right backatcha!

At 11:50 AM, Blogger Bilgeman said...


"She'll be back. DHD ownes Deb (in partnership with John Henry, of course)."

This is true. We sold her to John Henry with a leaseback arrangement...some kind of tax shelter thingie one of the VBS legal eagles knew about.

We ride on Frisch's head, John Henry gets to claim the mileage, and at the end of the lease, she STILL has the broken spark plug misfiring in her nugget.



At 11:57 AM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

No kidding about giving her anything. She keeps asking for people's names, addresses, what they do; wants them to email her at her pobox address. The whole thing seems very creepy, like her interest in Goldstein's toddler.

At 12:01 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

bilgeman -


(Yes, I am one of those people who does a snort/snorgle thing occasionally when I laugh. Delicate and ladylike, I assure you, but still a discernable snort.)

At 12:03 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

blizzardlane -

There are a million corporate email signup places in the naked innertubes.

I wouldn't be surprised if Deb has been signed up for newsletters from some innocuous sites. Not the nasty ones, of course, but perhaps from New Age type sites.


At 12:10 PM, Blogger warriordumot said...

DF: my "c**t cockula= the count without the O joke

hawksp: You told us that that was a "double ententre" over on your site.

Let me just say that your joke about Ms. Goldstein that you claimed to be a “double entente”, (and that you seem to be so proud of) was pretty indicative of how freaking stupid you were.

A double entente is a play of words that demonstrates at least two meanings and unlike your bilge, is funny.

DF: I am fine to agree to disagree about whether my count without the O joke was:

a. funny
b. double entendre

Somewhere you or another dingbat said the ability to correctly pronounce double entendres was indicative of the ability to generate or understand them. I could not disagree more. It's a bitch for an American to pronounce that phrase properly. Tres dificile, je pense.

doobla entendray

i prefer dubya entendray, actually.

At 12:17 PM, Blogger openacanatuna said...

It's still in her name. How stupid-to-the-bone is giving out banking info to all and sundry.,


At 12:31 PM, Blogger Staci said...

Brenda, I do too (re the snort) if I am cracking up. Do you guys realize that if Dr Deb were in Key West, shouting at a statue, they would think she is the norm of the homeless pscyhos that like to go there for the winter. And she would be the normal one.

They make a lot of money panhandling. I saw this guy, playing the flute (and he sucked big time) and every other note he hit was off, and when that happened, his dog started doing this howl-whine thing.

Maybe Dr Deb can set herself up, near Sloppy Joes where there is a wireless spot, and blog for tips. As people walk by, they hand her some of Teh Vodka and heckle her on. She can make a fortune!

At 12:39 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Hey Deb:

So, what did you call the injured parties to have the police charge you with stalking and harrassment?

At 12:44 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Staci -

There used to be an 'official' panhandler in front of the Georgia Pacific building here in Atlanta. The deal was, he wouldn't harass us as we went in and out of the bldg. and the management wouldn't kick him out of the plaza on his butt.

Guy was making more money than I was, and I made a pretty good salary!

At 12:49 PM, Blogger Hawksp said...

"DF: I am fine to agree to disagree about whether my count without the O joke was:

a. funny
b. double entendre"'re..admitting you didn't know what a double ententre was?

I don't give a rat's fourth point of contact how you pronounce it. The fact was that you were incredulous that we mere mortals didn't get it.

Humor 101: Loud-mouth screams something stupid at the top of their lungs at the same everyone else gets real quiet. The timing makes it funny.

Someone goes on a rant about something they are clueless about but acting like we’re stupid because we don’t get it. The irony makes it funny.

Get it, peep?

But, I thank you for attempting to engage our questions here.

Gerbil hits F9 on Gerbil sized keyboard and Deb gives insufficiently thought out explanation to softball question.

At 12:50 PM, Blogger Hawksp said...


The correct answer was...

Oops, I blew that one. I guess I didn't know what a double ententre was!

At 12:53 PM, Blogger Dianna said...

I'm not going to have time to critique poetry. I'm currently deciphering D&O Liability applications...and tonight's martial arts.

If poetry desperately needs critiquing, just remember, only Dr. Seuss gets away with One fish, two fish, red fish blue fish.

At 12:55 PM, Blogger Staci said...

The ones in Key West can be a real problem. They were getting pretty obnoxious. The ones down here in downtown Miami are obnoxious. I'll pass them on the way home because they will be lining up at the homeless shelter for this storm.

I wonder if she can set up shop next to that statue. Oregon might not embrace her freak potential though like Key West would. The weirder, the better. And she might meet someone during lesbo week....which reminds me, I need to check my calender. Last year's lesbo fest, I sent this arrogant jerk at work who was hitting on me down there. Told him it would be packed with girls...he took the bait. Wasn't very happy though.

At 12:58 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

I see the simian's been capering here today as well as SWP; isn't it a little early in the week?

BrendaK - When I lived in San Francisco, there were times when you couldn't take ten steps in areas of downtown or without tripping over a panhandler.

Not too many years ago, the local gubmint actually looked into the possibility of equipping them with wireless point-of-sale terminals so they could take ATM cards.

At 1:00 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

I see the "delete" feature's still not working; sorry about the typos...

At 1:01 PM, Blogger Dianna said...

Um, fatwa? That was Berkeley; they tried vouchers, instead. It lasted about 3 months, because, well. The usual reason.

To this day, you still can't go ten paces without seeing a panhandler in downtown SF. All the faces are familiar, too, and somehow lacking in charm.

At 1:01 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

fatwa -

That's a joke, right? Right? Oh, jeez, it's California.

It's still a joke, though, right?

At 1:07 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Diana -

Was that Berkeley? My bad; it happened after I left for L.A. and I appreciate being corrected.

Last I heard in S.F. the county gave 'em some type of debit card which they charged-up twice a month.

Nothing like supporting poor behavior to encourage more of it.

Nope...not a joke.

The public officials in SoCal and the Bay Area. are largely lunatics; seems to be a job requirement. (Not that the animals in NE Ohio are really any better...)

At 1:08 PM, Blogger Hosedragger said...

Count without an O? This is your big claim to fame? No one other than you ever found it funny. In fact, most everyone on earth finds that word and term one of the foulest imaginable. For you, who is supposedly a good little Liberal and feminist to even use it to describe another female speaks volumes about what kind of low life piece of filth you truly are.

And how about this? We are all you have. You have no friends, your family only contacts you to tell you to STFU as you are embarrassing them and they can no longer speak to their friends. You are a masochistic twit. You thrive on abuse.

Oh...and you will deserve all the financial woes that goes with posting personal banking information on the net. Somewhere someone is probably already running up your debt and destroying your credit with said information.

Absolutely brilliant.

So, what did the lonely hatefilled reflexion have to say to you this morning?

Posting on Craig's List? How utterly pathetic. Didn't you learn when no one answered your personal add?

You will never get a job above minimum wage again, so just accept it. Take my advise from an earlier post and check yourself into a hospital today. A mental hospital is far and away better than the prison you are heading for, and will do wonders for your insanity defense.

For a self-proclaimed "psychologist", you sure don't know diddly-squat about the industry do you.

No be quiet. The grown-ups are talking.

At 1:09 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Fatwa, Dianna, Brenda:

I was there in Berkeley when they tried that voucher system. Local businesses had to put a sign in the window saying they offered them so the homeless could come in exchange the vouchers for food. Needless to say, the homeless did not "buy" into the system since they didn't want food and the vouchers could not be used to buy anything else. Ah Berkeley, I can't believe I'm going back there soon.

At 1:16 PM, Blogger Hosedragger said...

It's true. I live 90 miles East of S.F. San Francisco currently gives their Residentially Challenged Urban Nomads a stipend of approx. $600 just for breathing air. They attempted to cancel the Junkie Payment or severelly reduce it and the junkies threw a fit as well as all the bleeding hearts in that cess pool. They make tons on pan handling as well as the City giving them cash. Not a bad racket.

Hey, Dr. CCFCCP...doesn't it hurt deep inside knowing that the junkies in S.F. make more than you. They don't do anything either and they get paid for it. All you do is troll blogs and spew filth and you haven't seen dime one.

Man...that's just gotta suck.

Does it suck more to know that I don't have a Masters or PhD. and I made more than twice the amount you ever did and I only work 10 days a month?

Really...who is the idiot in all or you?

Go look in that mirror again. You'll have the answer staring back at you with crazed, bloodshot eyes and unwashed hair.

At 1:20 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Joe -

Gonna stop by Larry Blake's (assuming it's still open)? My recollection is the "que" was pretty good there. And they often had pretty good bands.

'Cept you had to step around all of the folks selling ugly turquoise jewelry and wind chimes off of blankets to get there.

HoseDragger - Thanks for your update, too. Nice to know that some things don't change. (And if the economy here doesn't improve, it's nice to know there're income opportunities out west.

Oh and nice, vitriolic "monkey" spanking, too.

[Uh huh huh huh huh...]

At 1:22 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Man, for a cantankerous SOB, I'm sure using the word "nice" a lot today.

I gotta quit posting while doing four other things at the same time...

At 1:25 PM, Blogger Staci said...

Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where George discovers the guy teacher who allowed him to get a wedgie was some homeless dude in front of the library.

In Key West, they don't put up with that. They tried to get them to build something for the homeless and the city is basically saying f-off, our regular folks who are your everyday workers are having a hard time finding affordable housing, we aren't giving these lazy people free housing. They are usually your anarchists that come down in the winter and harrass the tourists. One guy made a huge mistake of really getting in my face and not taking no as an answer. I was real sweet and cooled him off with my beer. Then, some local street performer smacked him for messing with a local.

I saw this good band this weekend and there were a large number of hippies there. I can't figure out why hippies dance so weird.

At 1:26 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Fatwa -

Idiots in NW Ohio? No, I live in Georgia. We have Jimmy Carter and Cynthia McKenny, The World's Greatest Living Idiots. We've considered charging tickets to get into the state and see the show.

There's a street here called Jimmy Carter Blvd., arguable the worst stretch of road in these United States. Which is the perfect tribute to the man, all things considered.

Georgia - our politics are special.

At 1:27 PM, Blogger Staci said...

Haha Brenda.

Key West, where you can retire from drug smuggling and become mayor. Ask Capt Tony.

At 1:30 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


Oh man, Larry Blake's! That place afforded me my first real introduction to jazz, and then catching a band over at Eli's Mile High Club in Oakland. Good times.

At 1:44 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

BrendaK -

At least you have national-level morons for politicians; ours are strictly provincial. I think President James A. Garfield was the last one from around here, and he's best known for being assassinated by a "disappointed office-seeker".

Since "Slappy" McKinney will be out of work come January, she'll probably be spending lots more time around your town. Neener, neener.

And don't get me started on Jimmuh the Appeaser.

Georgia - our politicians are "special".

[There...fixed that for ya.]

By the by...I'm in NE OH (Cleveland metro area). Toledo (gack) is NW.

Joe -

I also recall Yoshi's fondly; heard some amazing performers there. And a couple of places in North Beach that had some great local players.

[Then there was the Fresno Hotel Saloon on Grant, just off Columbus; the kind of place that gives "dives" a bad name.]

At 1:45 PM, Blogger Staci said...

Fatwa, I was up in the Cleveland area a few weeks back. I went to Put In Bay and had a great time.

At 1:51 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Staci -

Put In Bay is indeed nice; I actually like this area a lot, except for the moribund economy and a business community which still acts like "big steel" is gonna be coming back any day now.

The orchestra's wonderful (several of my fellow high school music geeks are members), terrific art museum, pretty good theatre and whatnot.

Many lovely communities, affordable housing, lots of open space.

Just hard to make a buck right now.

At 1:57 PM, Blogger Staci said...

Well, the cops are jerks there. They arrested and threw this guy in jail because the license tag on the golf cart he RENTED was expired. Some locals told me it was kind of a scam. My friend from the Cleveland area said it was the "Key West" of the north, and while wild, no dice.

In Key West, you can walk around with a drink in a plastic cup, the cops aren't jerks...

It is a lovely area though. Deb wouldn't last a day though. They would misdiagnose her public display of lunacy as public drunkedness, not Teh Crayzee.

At 2:18 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Staci -

Not being familiar with Key West, I can't speak to whether this area is a northern version.

Don't have time now to comment re cops (as I've gotta scoot to go hustle some possible employment). Let's just say that I respect cops when they are deserving of it based on their behavior.

And I have high standards for behavior (mine as well as others).

See y'all later!

At 2:26 PM, Blogger Staci said...


I agree. I just don't like to see abuse and unfairness. Living in Miami, there is a lot of issues with that, or at least were.

But I really did enjoy it.

At 3:15 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

I love the cops around here. They all know my dad, and I haven't gotten a single traffic ticket! Even when I got pulled over and admitted my wrong doing.

Is that wrong?

At 5:02 PM, Blogger John said...

Brenda: Small world, I'm just up 400 from you, where we are "privilaged" to live amongst upstanding pillars of the community such as Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown.

...come to think of it, the time we witnessed one of their "entourage" pitching a fit in the local Publix over a loaf of bread or somesuch reminds me of what daily life in DebWorld must resemble.

Anyhow, just wanted to point out that, not only is there The Road Named For Jimmah in Norcross, in Decatur, Memorial Drive has been renamed at some point in the last few years, "Cynthia McKinney Parkway." I kid you not. I happened to be in the area on business a few weeks ago, and noticed that the old Parkaire Mall was now closed and the whole place looked like an arc light strike hit it. Then I noticed the road name sign, which explained everything.

BTW, you really need to check out Denny at Old Grouchy Cripple in Atlanta. He's our kind of folk!


At 5:10 PM, Blogger John said...

Oh, shazam, make that Old Grouchy Cripple in Atlanta. These InterTubes is hard!


At 8:49 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

John -

That's hilarious!

And welcome to The Show -- you should join us on the latest thread.


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