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1437 bannock. denver.co. 8/15@1:30. b there or b skware.I really hope that Mr. Eric Ruderman is a good guy and very very good at his vocation because he would start out be telling you not to post bullcrap like this. That sort of thing would bring this to a close.
After consulting with Mr. John Haas, a lawyer affiliated with the denver firm pendleton, etc. I decided it was not cost effective to pursue legal action against Mr. Jeffrey Todd Goldstein.
After consulting with Mr. Paul Davis, a lawyer affiliated with the denver firm moet/white, Count Cockula decided it was cost-effective to pursue legal action against me.
I have been served with a temporary restraining order, approved by a Judge Vollock in Denver, Colorado. The restraining order submitted by Moet/White and approved by Judge Vollock has wasted the resources of the sheriff of lane county and it will waste my time and money if I choose to come to Denver to fight it.
Two of the four conditions of the restraining order are things I HAVE NEVER DONE. I never called Mr. G. I ain't never been within 100 yards of his abode, unless he lives REALLY close to the United Terminal at the airport.
Two of the actions I'm prohibited to engage in thanks to Misters Goldstein, Lewis and Vollock are things Mr. Goldstein could prohibit me from doing with a click of his mouse. He can set his email to automatically delete emails from me. He can set his blog so that it will ban emails from my IP address.
This is a frivolous lawsuit and I must show up in Denver on August 15 to avenge my good name. I also need to figure out a way to sue Moet/White and file an official complaint against vollock the dingbat.
I chatted briefly with a lawyer named Eric Ruderman that was the first one I called after googling denver, lawyer, restraining order.
It's time to start looking into purchasing a ticket on United, renting a car and reserving rooms in inns in boulder and ?????
Where should I go on a three or four day rocky mountain road trip?
Legal and travel advice welcome.
"sam" said it best:
Make sure you inform the local and national media if you do appear in court so they can film you doing the "perp walk."
Posted by sam at August 7, 2006 09:34 AM
posted by Sinner @ 11:17 AM
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Who is "Paul Davis?"
And, why is she consulting a family law attorney??? Yeah, he will know a little about restraining orders and stalking, but family law procedures and remedies are different from those presented by this case. Moreover, he likely knows nothing about the internet issues, defamation, criminal stuff, and the other big dangers looming over her.
She thinks she's not crazy, and we are the fools. We're the pawns she's using to gain notoriety so she can launch her career as a left wing bitch from hell, and speak truth to power. She's smarter than all the attorneys, judges, jurors, bloggers, media, academia, everyone. She's figured it all out, and has a grand scheme; we're her enablers.
Yeah, all her moves are precisely calculated, and she knows exactly what she's doing. She's so smart, she's already seen around the next five corners. Meanwhile, we're so dim we don't even know there are corners in our path.
Yeah right. She may be the most irrational and moronic beast I've ever encountered. As one with a fetish for "framing," she's totally incompetent and likely to frame herself behind bars--if only for a night or two on a contempt order.
God, I love lay people who think they know more about law than lawyers and judges. I love to watch them spout off in court, and walk hand-in-hand with themselves, shackled behind their back, as the bailiff escorts them to their new accomodations. It's especially fun when the incarcerated moron claims I'm wrong about the law, the facts, or just plain calls me incompetent. Of course, the incarceration is simply proof that the judge is also wrong or incomptetent and also biased against whatever identity groups the "victim" happens to belong.
aMEN, denny.
i think one of my favorite things in all this is watching attorneys give her so much better legal advice in her comments section than she's getting in her quick chats with patent and family attorneys who know nothing about what she's actually done.
it's oddly vindicating to see you professionals act like grownups and try to sway her from her self-destruction.
too bad for her that she refuses to listen. all the better for my entertainment.
I would love to see the comments she deletes.
She's deleted some of my better ones, and I think I understand why--they were the least nasty of anything I wrote. She's obviously trying to portray us as irrational. Therefore, she's posting the nasty and crude comments, instead of the level-headed ones (though a few sneak through).
I've been banned for disliking Eugene (which I do with a passion), but I think it was really related to some legal advice she declined to publish. I'm tempted to make a sock puppet from very sheer hose, named Dani Krayne, and comment from my sailboat's ISP. I know she reads this site, so it will be interesting to see if the puppet will be allowed to speak.
This is entertaining stuff. I guess I really should go to Walmart and buy myself a life.
I was very impressed with the all the free legal advice, as well.
I think she should wear some sort of super hero costume to the hearing.
Good to see you here, Denny.
You did your best to offer her good advice, but she's bound and determined to "frame" this in terms favorable to her.
My father was a judge in CA for almost twenty years. I showed him her site last night. He shook his head and said, "yes, I've had several people before me who were exactly like this. Not one of them won their case, and most were convicted or had the jury return a judgment against them in 15 minutes or less."
He had no advice for Deb. It has always been an exercise in futility when someone's education has so thoroughly suffocated their common sense.
Just smile sadly, he said, remain silent, and let her careen toward her inevitable implosion.
denny,
Please post your stuff here, at least it will be published and will entertain us, which is the most important thing anyways...
Your advice seems to be some of the finest available, which is saying something. As a layman, even I can see the common sense in your postings.
How cool is it that you can try and post from your sailboat? Dam, that whole "computers are the plastics of the 60s" really didn't work out so well...
sulla,
Your father sounds like a wise and just man. You have a right to feel PRIDE.
Couldn't resist a 7 sins reference, I have a problem...
denny said:
"She's deleted some of my better ones, and I think I understand why--they were the least nasty of anything I wrote. She's obviously trying to portray us as irrational."
YES! that is exactly what i've been thinking.
my very first posts to her were actually kind, because at first, i felt genuinely sorry for her...
but of course they didn't go up. and that was before sinner started the these-are-the-comments-she-didn't-post post, so now they're just gone.
it wasn't until i got a bit sarcastic that she started posting my comments.
i think i've been somewhat unwilling to believe that a phd could honestly be this stupid...
crazy phd, i can believe. unhinged phd, no problem. deranged, psychotic, delusional... all those i can see.
but outright just dumber than dirt in every area but her own academic specialization? and even there, well... the whole denial of tenure thing says a lot about her success in her field.
i've spent the last couple of weeks trying to figure out what her angle really is, because she MUST have something up her sleeve.
i think i'm finally clued in to the fact that she doesn't.
but as one of her commenters said:
"you are THE cure for the late summer doldrums."
now that she's continued on with the actionable idiocy, i can laugh with impunity.
i used to watch colbert clips at youtube when i had a spare minute in front of the computer. now i read the comments on her site and this one and laugh and laugh and laugh.
what ARE we going to do when she's banned from posting anything anywhere ever? (is that ban possible, by the way?)
oh well, there'll be lots of colbert clips to catch up on, anyway.
You all have blogger ids, start up a blog with all your comments.
I will made the blogroll and link up.
Sulla,
I, too, have had several people like Frisch in the courtroom with me. Sometimes they're unrepresented litigants, sometimes they're represented by good counsel, sometimes they're represented by people just like them, and sometimes it's only the lawyer who is batshit crazy. Regardless, it always makes things interesting and fun. I have a collection of loony briefs, deposition and trial transcripts, and court orders memorializing some of the most bizaare shit I've seen.
Two things they all have in common are (1) they lose, and (2) I have no misgivings about going the extra mile to enforce and collect bankrupting cost judgments and/or sanctions.
Litigation has a lot of elements of poker. In a typical lawsuit, you bluff about the merits of your case, and diminish the relative merits of your opponent's case. You bob and weave, and use time to your advantage. Strategy is a large percentage of the game, whether, as most cases, it ends up being settled after lengthy negotiation before trial, or whether you intend to try it. You don't lie, but you maneuver like you're buying or selling a used car (if you're heading toward settlement), or you share as little as possible if you're intent on trying the case. But that's in normal lawsuits.
But, the delusional are treated differently. When people like Aunty Moonbat are on the other side, I give them everything. I tell them exactly why I'm right and he or she is wrong. I tell them exactly what my strengths and weaknesses are, and what theirs are. I tell them every consequence that will flow from their actions. I literally lay my entire hand on the table for all to see (including the judge). They keep re-framing the controversy in delusional terms, and I tell them point-blank, in excruciating detail, why they are wrong. I watch them spew their delusional crap in court, and watch them lose time after time.
Then I enforce everthing I warned them about. I've seen people mortgage their house or cash in life insurance policies to pay $20k-$30k in litigation costs. I've seen people file for bankruptcy to save their home against cost bills. It's pretty harsh shit, but they were repeatedly well-warned, and it's only fair that my clients are reimbursed for the morons' delusional conduct.
And, since they usually insult me or jerk me around in ways that keep me working during holidays, or cause me to miss my daughters' dance recitals or graduation or whatever because they won't cooperate with scheduling, I make a special effort to squash them. And they do get squashed, and squished, and, well, you get the point.
In the end, they blame the judge or jury for being stoopid or biased, and everyone else for lying (depends on the "framing").
Although Lewis wears a bow tie (that's scary if he really litigates), I'll bet he's entering squash mode about now. I hope we can all watch it play out.
denny,
Nice... Squash mode... Very nice...
I never tought I would root for a lawyer... heh.
It does seem about time for the hammer to fall. Maybe on or about the 15th when the TRO becomes perm.
Word to Deb Frisch:
Since I'm banned from your fountain of jibberish, I'm not allowed to give you this very important piece of advice:
The litigation privilege. Look it up. You can say anything you want about Goldstein, Lewis, the judge or anyone else you would like to defame, as long as you say it in open court. YOU WILL BE IMMUNE TO PROSECUTION FOR DEFAMATION!!! Seriously. Therefore, I suggest you say anything and everything your heart desires in court, because you cannot be sued for defamation flowing from those statements.
Is that really true?
Can you say anything you want in open court w/o consequences?
hmmm..... Interesting....
She's wrong that he could have banned her or stopped her emails with the click of a mouse.
He could have banned her IP address or her email address, but she could still have continued to use other computers or new email addresses.
He wouldn't have had the time to keep banning her. And secondly, why should he waste time with that when an RO is much tighter.
Denny Crane: "God, I love lay people who think they know more about law than lawyers and judges." I do too. Sometimes the results are amazing.
For example, Tommy Sheridan, MSP, former leader of the Scottish Socialist Party, in pro per after dismissing one of Great Britain's very best barristers, achieved a tremendous plaintiff's victory over "The News Of The World" and a GBP 200,000/USD 381,000 judgement. See trial coverage in Google & "The Scotsman". Fascinating stuff.
sulla;
""yes, I've had several people before me who were exactly like this. Not one of them won their case, and most were convicted or had the jury return a judgment against them in 15 minutes or less.""
What's this? They don't furnish coffee-pots in California jury rooms?
Last jury I was on, was a directed verdict, and we STILL managed to drag it out long enough for a cuppa "county grind".
(Although they really SHOULD clean their coffeepots more often).
Regards;
denny crane;
"Then I enforce everthing I warned them about. I've seen people mortgage their house or cash in life insurance policies to pay $20k-$30k in litigation costs. I've seen people file for bankruptcy to save their home against cost bills. It's pretty harsh shit, but they were repeatedly well-warned, and it's only fair that my clients are reimbursed for the morons' delusional conduct."
I think I'm in love with you.
Regards;
Dam bilgeman, you got a great outlook.
Per diem, my God think about the per diem!
Sixpack:
There are exceptions, but they are few, and I've never encountered one firsthand. Most are delusional morons like Frisch.
Training and experience goes a long way in the legal profession, but there is no substitute for a great brain. Some lawyers are dumber than shit, some are pretty bright. Many lay people are absolutely brilliant. In most cases my money is on the dumb lawyer versus the brilliant lay person--but I'm not always gonna win that bet.
denny, I really like your posts and I hope you continue to post here.
The legal stuff is very interesting, but it is still mind boggling that Deb is just one of many. It seems completely unreal that someone wouldn't change their tune in a hurry once they enter a courtroom.
I'm quite sure I would be reduced to a hyperventilating amoeba-like entity if I were ever hit with something like that!
I second the motion that this stuff would make me very uneasy, but not a "hyperventilating amoeba-like entity".
I would tend more to "Rain Man"
I am an excellent blogger, excellent blogger...
Actually, she is looking at several class 4 felonies, and up to 5-10 years in state prison.
The best offense that Jeff's lawyer has will be Dr. Crazypant's defense...otherwise known as letting her run her suck in court. It will be instantly proven that she is totally unstable and should be kept for a nice 72 hrs. and kept away from the internet and computers for a loooooong time.
Asks Frisch:
"Where should I go on a three or four day rocky mountain road trip?
Legal and travel advice welcome."
Legally? Make out a will. And don't take out the abency's insurance on the rent-a-wreck.
Travel?
Try this drive. Make sure you buckle your seatbelt and bring a kazoo to stck in your mouth, since you'll have a few seconds before you impact.
http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cletheroe/usa_can/scenroad/m_evans.htm
Here's a few helpful maps...I wonder if she knows how to read contour lines on a topographical map.
http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/projects/geoweb/participants/dutch/VTrips/MtEvans.HTM
Great road.
thanks again for the great posts, Denny. I feel like I'm getting a night course in One-L. :)
Sinner said:
"How cool is it that you can try and post from your sailboat? Dam, that whole "computers are the plastics of the 60s" really didn't work out so well..."
It's really my cell phone's ISP. It connects via bluetooth with my laptop, so I can access the internet from whereever I get cell phone reception. Fortunately, there's great reception between LA and Catalina and some other Channel Islands. Or my car. Or the beach. Or....
What's scary is I've seen a few people like this. Typically, they were women. But, I unfortunately was a dumbass when I was younger and dated someone who was an alcoholic. He attempted to press charges against me because he shoved his middle finger in my face and I returned the gesture. BUT, my ring broke skin and he bled, so he felt I should pay for any cosmetic surgery he may need to correct future scarring. I kind of wished the DA would have taken the case because I had a shitload of people who I was going to sell tickets to with info of when it would make it to court. His defense, in his fucked up head, was well, I did it first but didn't make her bleed.
But for the most part, the real crazy ones seem to be women. I may be wrong, but I've seen evidence that Satan really does have sisters.
Staci,
I can give you a great male example, if that will make you feel better:
My fiance's ex-husband. He's not only Persian and is predisposed to narcissism, misogyny and the constant delusional world views reminiscent of "Bagdad Bob," (the Iraqi Information Minister who claimed they were kicking our asses, as the Sadam statue was being torn down), but on top of that he is batfrisch crazy. He's always taking her to court on child support and custody issues, and he gets slapped down and sanctioned every time. He's been incarcerated for contempt of court, and he still refuses to comply. Of course, everything is *her* fault, and never his--yet no one on Earth agrees with him.
He keeps lying to their daughters and telling bizarrely warped tales of how evil their mother is, and how she is to blame for all his problems, when every one is self-imposed. And he digs the holes deeper and deeper. He claims the court, his own lawyers, and everyone else is prejudiced against Persians. Now he represents himself, because all lawyers conspire to work against him.
He is just like Frisch.
Denny Crane:
"It's really my cell phone's ISP. It connects via bluetooth with my laptop, so I can access the internet from whereever I get cell phone reception. Fortunately, there's great reception between LA and Catalina and some other Channel Islands. Or my car. Or the beach. Or.... "
And to think that some people don't LIKE oil platforms.
Enroute from the Straits of Florida to New Orleans or Houston and back I "hopscotched" my good ole Cellular One Nokia's signal from platform to platform.
Of course, once you go blue water, you're into "Iridium Country".
Regards;
"She's deleted some of my better ones, and I think I understand why--they were the least nasty of anything I wrote. She's obviously trying to portray us as irrational. Therefore, she's posting the nasty and crude comments, instead of the level-headed ones (though a few sneak through)."
I think you're right about that. I posted a couple of times, nothing rude or crude, just offering friendly legal advice, and neither of my posts made it to her board.
She's a special kind of crazy, Ms. Frisch is.
She's going to purchase a ticket on United? I must have missed the post about her broom being in the shop.
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