Wednesday, August 23, 2006

Prepare for the mighty INSTALANCHE!!!!!

Not us directly, but one of the VBS kids get the primary 'lanche, we are linked up in the referenced post.

A second order 'lanche!

Welcome all newbies!

See the sidebar for the DHD Lexicon and dive right in, the water's fine!

The only rule is that you at least try to stay away from the actual Dr. Deb site. The lack of hits is good for her recovery.


At 11:23 AM, Blogger Dianna said...

What recovery? I'm still waiting for rock-bottom from her.

At 11:58 AM, Blogger Rabbit said...

Welcome new readers!

Please visit

Our own John Henry set up yet another site to mock crayzee Debbie

At 12:16 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

How frantically do you imagine she's sanitizing her site?!

People who haven't followed this are going to feel sorry for her, and offer comfort, and think everyone is just so bad for being 'mean' to her when she clearly needs professional help.

Then she'll devour them -- with a nice chianti sauce.

At 12:22 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Don't forget fava beans!

At 12:29 PM, Blogger Fred the Genius said...


I think you're giving her way too much credit. I believe she only takes down what she's essentially forced to take down. She thinks it's totally unfair. She can't understand why everyone keeps picking on her. All she ever tried to do was save the galaxy. She remains utterly clueless.

At 12:30 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Thhhpt-thhhpt-thhhpt (creepy tongue noise)

Hey, Joe & Fred.

Fred, she still wants to rake in the bucks. Wait, you're right. She really does believe that dreck is genius.

At 12:33 PM, Blogger Fred the Genius said...

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At 12:39 PM, Blogger tim said...

I wonder whether the lack of hits would be good for her recovery. I've speculated that the best predictive equation would show that:

Prob(C) = f/H

i.e.: probabilitee of teh crazee (C) is inversely proportional to her daily hits (H) times a (thus far) unknown constant, the Frisch Factor (f).

I now attempt to deduce the structure of the Frisch Factor. I believe the Factor is the product of the intensity of her egocentricity (e) times the time since the last cray-zee, (t):

f = t*e

If we substitute this product into the original equation, we thus get the revised:

Prob(crayzee) = t*e/H

At 12:49 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Ooh, tim, coming out with the voodoo statistics! Sorry, that's what I called economics back when I was taking statistical mechanics and quantum mechanics at the same time. Been screwed up ever since!

We'll have to see whether Tim's Conjecture holds up to measurable trends.

We shall see!

At 12:50 PM, Blogger OregonMuse said...

That was a damn fine summation of the Frisch Story So Far over at blogpi. And the two-word description given to Deb, "vitriolic sociopath" is just perfect.

At 12:55 PM, Blogger Rabbit said...

I was on some leftist site that still had the count chockula picture & it linked back to her. But in the archives,she took down the picture. Part of the original TRO, I think.Anyway, I found this gem, the asterisks are hers.

July 26 Archives

Brawl Poem
There once was a guy named Count C**Kula
On the surface he appeared to be jocular
But under the mask
And fueled by the flask
The hombre was downright psycotokula

Sounds more like her to me.

At 12:57 PM, Blogger Fred the Genius said...

Oops, I meant bremdak.

Sorry about that.

Your Fiend,


At 12:59 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Rabbit - that has to be her.

Just checked her site meter (from here, natch). She's off and rolling!

What do you reckon she's the only person on the internet who's never heard of Instapundit?

At 1:03 PM, Blogger Mama Duck said...

Ah, glad to see you're getting attention from the big guys now too ;).

At 1:10 PM, Blogger IllinoisRepublican said...

"I don't know who Debord is."

To which I sent something to the effect of:
You really don't know how to use google, do you? But what should I expect from someone that uses Colbert and Stewart as a credible news source.

No comments posted. This one may not make it.

At 1:31 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Bonjour, Frischophiles

My, my, my...are we seeing the beginning of a new chapter in The Little Golden Book of Teh Crazy®?

Gee willikers. Sinner's getting some linky love. And Tim would appear to be in the process of developing a new discipline: Comedy Mathematics. (Which easily makes him more of a scientist than Deb, since he's verifiably funny.)

"Howdy" to all the new DHDers; I think you'll find the crowd here pretty convivial. (Good thing there're still lots of Muppet avatars available...)

I saw two new terms earlier this morning; one of them was "debmented"; can't recall the other one right now but it, too, was teh funnee. A round of WTF Vdoka for everyone who's coining this stuff!

Man...if this keeps up, Joe's going to need some help with Teh Lxeicon.

Quite interesting to see that the audience for this super-slo-mo train wreck keeps growing, particularly in the academic sector.

Too bad there's no feasible way to turn this into Fox's next reality series. (I've actually thought about how it could be developed, which is pretty pathetic on my part. But it's not all that much more diseased than "Trading Spouses".)

At 1:37 PM, Blogger Staci said...

Fatwa, it was Debmentia, the addiction to watching Teh Frischwreck. The treatment in form of a self help group here at DHD is Teh-rapy.

At 1:42 PM, Blogger Rabbit said...

Did anyone ever contact the smoking gun to see about get her court documents up?

At 1:51 PM, Blogger Sulla said...

Here's some others that may not catch on. I've noticed that the best ones happen naturally, when someone's creative juices are flowing. I think the passion of initial delivery is what helps make lasting impressions and repeatability.

Debosphere/Frischosphere - that subset of the Internet that devotes space to her Frischitude

Deborrhea - self-destructive ranting

Frischevik - those (dwindling few) who side with or defend her attempts at argument, esp. WRT Israel.

At 1:56 PM, Blogger Fatwa Arbuckle said...

Thanks for your correction, Staci; "Debmentia" it is.

And Sulla, "Deborrhea" was the other one (which I musat have read pre-coffee this a.m.).

Does the fact we're developing so many in-jokes mean we're becoming a cult?

And can we make it pay handsomely?

At 1:59 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Lessee here...
[busily taking notes]

Tim' Conjencture: Prob(crayzee) = t*e/H - [check]

Debmentia [uh huh]

Frischwreck [that goes there]

Teh-rapy [ooh, wonderful, good-good]

Okay, more updates coming up!

At 2:03 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

[grabs green kermit pencil hastily from ear]

Deborrhea [missed one, gotcha]

Debosphere [yes, very nice]

Frischevik [not sure about that one, goes into column B]

Any more out there?

At 2:22 PM, Blogger openacanatuna said...

No new posts today and only one comment in Frischspace. Think the local WTF Vodka retail distributor in Eugene is doing a good business today? la Frisch is getting some well-deserved attention at some more widely read blogs today. She undoubtedly has scoped that out & I'm guessing tune of the day at Camp Kaczinski is "Whiskey River" by Willie Nelson.

Hey Deb - helluva week so far: jail, arraignment, complete and utter blogosphere embarassment, the poor kid who posted that he'd seen you in a store - the best thing he had to say (and I'm paraphrasing here) was "Well, at least she warn't a werewolf or nuthin'". Anyway, here's the good news - IT'S ONLY WEDNESDAY!!!

bottoms up


At 2:34 PM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

It IS Frischmas Eve after all.

At 2:38 PM, Blogger Timothy said...

Glad y'all liked the post, it was made possible by VBSers like you.

At 2:43 PM, Blogger Blizzardlane said...

Reality check time: Like kudzu, the links are spreading, and at this site there's a lot of "Jeff Deserved It" justification going on.

I'll confess, I'm not a huge fan of PW, and don't spend a lot of time there. It's not my scene, honestly, because I'm not that rough-and-tumble Internet "word warrior" type. But...

Geez louise. Admit this woman went over the line. When I read her creepy crap begging for the age and sex of the child, every red flag in my psyche went up.

At 2:46 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Hey Dudes,

New definitions are up on the lexicon. Apologies to Frischevik for not making the cut. If usage levels increase, please try out again later. I've got a scout dedicated to you, so keep practicing!

At 2:52 PM, Blogger Staci said...

I think we need to track the sites defending her.

At 2:52 PM, Blogger Sulla said...

i only ever tried out Frischevik at one other site, but aside from a post or two it didn't catch on.

As I said, it refers to a DWINDLING number of fellow travelers on the Frischerman's Wharf. :)

I take no offense.

Scuse me while I reach for my copy of Final Exit....

At 2:54 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

We've got a link on Ace.

At 3:22 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

And on The Jawa Report.

At 3:29 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Oops, no link on Jawa, just the instapundit link.

At 4:10 PM, Blogger Voice of Reason said...

Hey guys. I just wanted to say thanks for providing this site. This has been a great service. I have been watching this story since day one . . . and what a trainwreck it has been. It has truly been addictive. . . internet crack cocaine, I guess. I have been lurking here for quite a while but I have never posted. I am glad that I can come here for the "5 o' clock news" version of teh crazy, without having to go to her site. Keep up the great work. Oh . . . Joe, the lexicon is great. That was laugh-out-loud stuff. Thanks again and keep up the great work.

At 4:57 PM, Blogger SBH said...

Well, I read the comments at Instapundit and thought the reasons she was being held up to ridicule were being lost in the muck. You are all so nice to me here that I am getting brave. I sent in a comment which I will post here, too, just for drill and practice. Keep up the good work VBS'rs, I don't want to see this woman teaching again!

posted to instapundit. (I hope)
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

SBH Says:
This troubled woman has a long, long, history of harassment and distasteful behavior and (wait for it…) she’s been employed as an educator!! I’m sick of watching what passes for normal behavior in academia these days. The very idea that she is teaching psychology and has held a government job in the sciences is what made this a universal subject to me. She’s the current poster-child for the academic who couldn’t use the simplest of logic to fight their way out of a paper bag. I think this is the reason her sad story is relevant to a wider audience. Check out her posts on academic listserves. Even they don’t want her brand of nonsense and yet, she stayed employed in the academic world until she screwed up bad enough to draw notice from papers all over the world! As a former academic myself, I welcome the scrutiny.

The end. I hope they aren't mean to me over there...I am but and egg.

At 4:58 PM, Blogger SBH said...

Well, screwed up already!! I posted that to Balloon Juice. I've never seen Instapundit get really mean. Balloon Juice, however, looked to be way over my head. I think this is called "Trial by Fire".

At 5:11 PM, Blogger tim said...

Got linked on HotAir. I made sure to Digg the article. ;)

At 5:12 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


Good for you! I was concerned when you said you posted a comment to Instapundit, because all you can really do over there is email Glenn, but then you clarified you posted at balloon juice. Those guys are rabid left, so all the anti-Goldstein moral equivalency crap will come out again. But your skin will grow thicker real quick once they respond. Don't take it personally: they come from a certain bias and speak from it. That's fine, just as long as you have full disclosure.

At 5:13 PM, Blogger tim said... rest is


Thank you :)

At 5:15 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Voice of Reason:

Welcome! Thanks for nice words regarding the lexicon. I always hated it when I didn't know any of the inside jokes and lingo in a new place, so I wanted to help out the new guys when they came to visit. Plus, there will come a time when teh fizzle® becomes permanent, and I would like to look back at those times and smile.

At 5:17 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


Good job with your buddy over at BlogPI. I was going to update my timeline, but now all I have to do is link you guys. Great narrative.

At 5:18 PM, Blogger SBH said...

Thank you for the kind words, Joe. Haven't figured out how to clutch a pixel to my breast but if they are too mean to me over there I'm gonna use your post to figure it out!

At 5:27 PM, Blogger Rabbit said...

You know she is reading everything, everywhere and it is just eating her alive not to post on her own site.

I predict she will watch her Cold Bear & post before she passes out. (I am assuming it is on tonight-I don't watch TV.)

I doubt she posts any of our comments, even "Friendly" ones. Choosing whether to post them or not is one of the few remaining choices she has left.

At 5:29 PM, Blogger tim said...


She posted. She's regressing
back even further:

bad luque
When I was in sixth grade in Forest Park elementary school in Dix Hills, NY 11746, there was a school wide spelling bee. Every class had a mini-bee to determine who would be sent to the auditorium for the big bee. I narrowly lost to a guy whose name and face I don’t remember, but think of as Steve in my memory of the 30 year old incident.

I have a very faded mental video of walking down the hallway to the big spelling bee. I turned to Steve and said “bad luck.” I remember that I was immediately whisked into a small office by my teacher, Miss Zawislak. She basically told me she wanted me to grow up straight and tall like a saguaro and not all twisted and crooked like a cholla. She didn’t use those exact words, of course (this was Lawn Guyland, not Tooson!) but this is the gist that I remember. (I did a shtick about this in my one and only appearance in Monolog Cabin, a Tucson highbrow comedy gig run by Steve Barancik, the screenwriter who wrote Last Seduction.)

I really got my inner saguaro thing on when I lived in Tucson. I would joke “I’m getting in touch with my inner saguaro” and use it as an excuse to be a rageaholic. Hahaha.

I have been gone from Tucson for two months but I am getting MORE in touch with my inner saguaro. I need to say “whoa, hombra” it is time to get in touch with your inner Douglas fir, Ponderosa pine, blackberries and a teensy weensy itsy bitsy tiny itsy bitsy bit of poison oak. You need to kumbaya big time, hombra. No more Faux Newz. No more phuquing with folx you be mad at 'cause day phuqued witchoo. No more jousting with the wingnuts you attracted from the Pajamas Mediumb crowd. It is time to take this act up pi notches toot d’ephing sweet, if not sooner.

I can provide references to confirm that Miss Zawislak was a total b****, if necessary. In hindsight, she was trying to spare me from what she perceived to be her subobtimal destiny. Jeez la phuquing wheeze, if only I had listened to Miss Z!
End of teh text

At 5:33 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Oh yes, vodka thirty has arrived. Teh crazy® has begun. No target yet, except for Pajamas Mediumb, but I don't think it merits Orange Alert yet.

At 5:41 PM, Blogger tim said...

Agreed, Joe~

For kicks, I did an Infospace search on Zawislak in NY. There's an octogenarian woman (Carolyn) and a nonagenarian (Frances).

Since the target remains unclear, Teh Deb's reminiscence can only count as teh "random poo flinging." No orange alert...yet.

At 5:49 PM, Blogger Rabbit said...

Well, She showed Ms. Z., didn't she? LOL

At 5:53 PM, Blogger openacanatuna said...

Ya know, I remember when I grew up in California there's this weird kind of weather everyone refers to as "earthquake weather" - usually warm, windless, slightly muggy with the barometric pressure rising quickly. There's nothing like it in the southwest where I live now. Probably in the midwest they call it tornado weather.

I'm sure there's no scientific connection between weather & earthquakes, but..... it is the kind of weather where all the background noise seems to fade into the background & the rising pressure almost feels like everyone's collective blood pressure is rising. And it's quiet. Too quiet. The leaves on the trees aren't moving and even the traffic seems to be moving on softer tires. Dogs don't bark, the inside of stores seem strangely silent & people on the street seem preoccupied with getting home.

The collective group anxiety results in everyone trying to explain it, thinking that if you can name it that will make it go away. Hence the "earthquake weather" moniker.

Anyway, I'd always thought of it as "bad juujuu" weather - like everyone became slightly prescient and collectively knew that something was about to happen. Something bad.

My point, oh yes, I had a point when I started this. My point is I kind of feel that the bad juujuu weather is here. Well, actually not here here at DHDF. Actually, over at la Frischie's site. Won't surprise me in the least if we move to DefCon 5 shortly. Too much pressure building and no outlet.

Or I could be completely wrong.

bottoms up!


At 5:59 PM, Blogger openacanatuna said...

Meant DefCon 1 - amazing how you can f**k up a nice post if you don't bother to google the simplest thing.

At 6:01 PM, Blogger Timothy said...

For clarification: The Tim with the Swedish Chef muppet icon is not me.

Good job with your buddy over at BlogPI. I was going to update my timeline, but now all I have to do is link you guys. Great narrative.

Thanks, Joe, glad the other VBSers liked the post. Even the much more prolific and confusing Tim :-)

At 6:10 PM, Blogger tim said...


At 6:22 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

It is time to take this act up pi notches toot d’ephing sweet, if not sooner.

I can provide references to confirm that Miss Zawislak was a total b****, if necessary. In hindsight, she was trying to spare me from what she perceived to be her subobtimal destiny.

Yep, every time she says she's going to 'take it up a notch', she goes into another spiral. It was just a quicker trip to the basement this time.

Good evening, all, and a great big Hey to all the new people.

At 6:26 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Helloooooooo (thunks on monitor) - anybody out there?

I had my post-meetings-all-damn-day nap and I'm raring to snark!

At 6:29 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

[holds hands up]

please don't hurt me [small voice]

How's today for the light of the blogosphere to shine on the Debosphere, huh? Fun, huh?

At 6:40 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Joe, sweetie, I'd never ever snark on you.

We probably won't be hearing too much from the Debster until tomorrow. She has to have reams of comments material to wade through.

Turn off the moderation, Deb -- be free in the wild!

At 6:44 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Joe -

Uhm, it's late to add stuff, but how about Vortex of Whatt? It pretty well described how I felt in the depths of my Debmentia yesterday evening.

At 6:49 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


We know our little Debbie will just let comments run free and wild, even though her site hits would go through the roof if she did.

Meh, if she hadn't figured that out by now, she never will.

At 6:51 PM, Blogger OregonMuse said...

People who haven't followed this are going to feel sorry for her, and offer comfort, and think everyone is just so bad for being 'mean' to her when she clearly needs professional help.

I saw something like this happen in real life. I used to live in a communal college-dorm-like situation many years ago and there was a crazy woman living there who was, basically, terrorizing the other women with her bizarre and obnoxious behavior. Eventually, the guy who was functioning as the Resident Authority was called in to mediate, he sat everyone down in an open meeting, he listened to all the complaints -- and then sided with the crazy woman. Damndest thing I ever saw.

At 6:53 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

That's not necessarily the case - she's learning all about the intertubes with the speed of a thundering herd of turtles.

She could figure it out. Maybe.

At 6:56 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


We-ell, like I told Sulla earlier with his Frischivek contribution that it needed more usage. Vortex of Whatt is all illustrative and graphic, kind of pretty even, but...

If it becomes common, then it goes in. Hell, that might even happen tonight in the comments, but I need more people falling into teh vortex so that we can reference it over and over.

At 6:56 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

oregonmuse - it's human nature to want to help the mentally defective. Initially. Like everyone else, those who feel compassion for po' po' pitiful Deb will come into the light eventually.

I just thought we might be in for a shellacking up until the newbies figured out what her deal is.

At 6:59 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Joe - sigh. Back to the metaphor machine.

At 7:04 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


I was a bit worried about that effect too, but BlogPI's piece was so inclusive of even the Sadly, No episode, those bases were covered too. She couldn't even play nice with people that agreed with her politically because they didn't agree with her immature goading. Average people are still average people, and teh frisch falls a standard deviation or two below that.

At 7:18 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

I peeked at Deb's - I wish I had known that all one has to do to be clever is channel Gildner Radner by quoting 'Never mind.'

I could have been a smart girl!

At 7:29 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...

i just read this on the blog p.i. link:

"In one of this woman’s previous emails she said she considered blowing herself up on the steps of the courthouse in, I believe, Philadelphia, but it could have been D.C."

when i was in grad school in philly in the mid 90's there was this bizarre performance artist chick who used to do these protest dances on the steps of the art musesum, the skuykill bridge, and on penn's campus.

finally, penn banned her from campus ... it was during the 96-97 school year. and in protest, she committed suicide by setting herself on fire in front of the library. i will never forget the horror of that as long as i live.

this is not something i'd put past the crazy woman in oregon.

NOTICE: this is NOT a suggestion for something she SHOULD do. she just seems like the same kind of person as the crazy performance artist lady in the red, white, and blue fringed bikini (oh. deb in a bikini. that's scary enough right there.)

At 7:30 PM, Blogger lunarpuff said...


"My point is I kind of feel that the bad juujuu weather is here."

Yes, indeedy I think you're right. A bit of introspection and then BAM, teh crazy!

I think by 9 pm at the latest.

At 7:37 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

ottavarima -

I really think Deb is too narcissistic to go that route. I used to think she might, but she has displayed an amazing ability to rise above it all by reminding herself that she's much smarter than everyone else on the planet.

At 7:42 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...


yes . . . narcissistic . . . which is exactly what we all thought about the crazy lady dancing on the steps of the art museum in her fringed bikini. she gave off that that same i'm-smarter-more-talented-and-better
-than-all-of-you thing.

however, you're most likely right. because i doubt deb is as dedicated as bikini lady.

but she's just as crazy.

At 7:43 PM, Blogger lunarpuff said...

Holy Crap, ottavarima, that's horrible.

I haven't seen bilgeman here for a while, but he thinks she's suicidal as well.

I sincerely hope she is not that far gone, but some of her posts...

At 7:44 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Whadya think, our lil Debbie?

Signed agency contract with painter D. Frisch
Posted on Wednesday 23 August 2006

Deborah Frisch and Teresa Fahs signed a contract this week that employes Teresa as Debbie’s agent. Teresa will be developing a strategic marketing plan, a website portfolio, promotions, and public relations to launch Debbie’s paintings of the human landscape next year. Both principal and agent are excited about the partnership.

More to updates to follow :-)


Performance art or painting nudes? Hmm.

At 7:48 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...

context, joe. context.

where'd you get that? is it real or did you make it up?

as deb would say: inquiring minds wanna know.

At 7:49 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Here's the link. I'm such a tease...

At 8:02 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...


i never tend to look at my two-post blog that i set up just for the purpose of linking here . . . but for some reason i just did.

welcome to the wonderful world of target="_blank"

use it well. use it often.

At 8:05 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Nope, gottcha. Here's that Debbie Frisch, art teacher. Scroll down a bit. Who knew that Deborah Frisch could be so common a name? Another group of people who have to duck their heads in shame.

At 8:19 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

ottavarima -

I got so tickled with your post on that. I've complained about it mentally, but it never occurred to me to actually put it in words so people would know HOW to do fix it.

Good show!

At 8:23 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Speaking of blogs, BTW, y'all ought to visit joeschmo's blog. If you're into biking its great, but I like to go there for the suboptimal dolphins and helmity goodness.

(link on main page)

At 8:24 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

Ahem. That's helmety goodness.

At 8:30 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...

Hmm, helmety goodness [drool]

Check out the front page, I got a PSA from the Red vs. Blue guys. Very helpful for you Hummer drivers out there.

At 8:33 PM, Blogger OregonMuse said...

finally, penn banned her from campus ... it was during the 96-97 school year. and in protest, she committed suicide by setting herself on fire in front of the library. i will never forget the horror of that as long as i live.

Oh gosh, I think I remember this. What was her name? If it's the one I'm thinking of, I heard eyewitnesses say the flames rose over ten feet in the air. Truly horrific.

And by all accounts, she was pretty loony, even without the bizarre suicide. All of her radical protest activities were all wrapped up in her looniness.

At 8:39 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...

i just have to post and try out my new, more VBS friendly avitar.

the dog has been complaining about her photo being subject to teh crazy®. (the dog knows the troll comes here and it makes her nervous, even though the troll is on the opposite coast and doesn't have a car.)

okay. one more thing. the fact that i'm posting again means we don't have enough steps in the 12-step plan.

i was doing SO well. i went away for the weekend to the beach. hardly looked at all, and only posted once.

now i'm back to teh addiction (and if you think i'm kidding, i didn't even mean to type "teh" in that last sentence.)

holy man. where's my support group.

At 8:45 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

ottavarima -

Breath deeply...repeat after me: I will not fall into debmentia. I will not fall into debmentia.

We're here for you!

BTW - are you snow white or the evil queen?

At 8:47 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...


i don't remember her name ... but the stories are true. the flames were huge.

were you in philadelphia then? she was all over the place in university city for nearly the entire time i was in grad school. then that last year she set herself on fire in front of the library.

she had long dark hair and i actually talked to her once on the skuykill bridge when she was handing out flyers while she was dancing.

sad. very, very sad. just absolutely horrifying. and that one reference to the frisch blowing herself up on the steps of somewhere reminded me of it.

At 8:47 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

I keed - I know from your posts you aren't the evil queen.

At 8:49 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...


i was going to say ... depends on the reader: are you deb? then i'm the evil queen!

At 9:33 PM, Blogger OregonMuse said...

were you in philadelphia then? she was all over the place in university city for nearly the entire time i was in grad school. then that last year she set herself on fire in front of the library.

No, I've been in Oregon for 25 years and heard about it at the time. I am trying to recall how I heard about it, oh yes, now I remember: it was back then in the glory days of usenet and I was part of a group making fun of a famous net.kook who was very similar to our Deb. It was the net kook who had befriended the Philly kook and I got the impression, reading between the lines of her incoherent writings that she thought the Philly kook was kind of out there, even for her, although she avoided making any actual criticism of her.

What a poor, disturbed woman. Both of them, actually.

At 9:47 PM, Blogger OttavaRima said...

What a poor, disturbed woman. Both of them, actually.

yes! and deb too.

in so many ways, deb is so similar to that woman. she was just this crazy person harrassing us with fringe and flyers (the content of which i can't recall to save my life) on our way to class.

she was always there, and we took it for granted she always would be, until one day she went up in flames, literally, and then wasn't there anymore.

i do think brendak is right, though. for all the philly lady's craziness, she had more fortitude and commitment than deb.

deb ain't goin' up in any kind of real flames any time soon. just the bloggy metaphorical crazy flames we all know and are addicted to.

At 10:12 PM, Blogger BrendaK said...

ottavarima -

That was obviously a deeply miserable and disturbed woman, and I hope her soul has peace now.

Deb, on the other hand, is obnoxious and mercenary. Unlike the woman who killed herself, Debee will never be separated from her chosen venue of expression since she just shifts the target and means at will. Even if she were banned by court order from utilizing a computer at all, she'd be ok. She was exhibiting this kind of vicious behavior long before she ventured into the blogosphere.

I'm chock out of compassion and empathy for Deb. All I have left for her is amazement, disdain and the occasional red-hot anger.

At 11:09 PM, Blogger Hosedragger said...

I refuse to use a Muppet avatar. I will keep with the Spanish Inquisition. After all...NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition.

At 11:47 PM, Blogger joeschmo1of3 said...


Oh come on, you know you want to! Well, we've already got a couple of Tims around here, how about the knights who say "Ni!"?

At 11:56 PM, Blogger Hosedragger said...

This is what I left as a response on Instapundit. They were discussing Dr. CCFCCP's alledged mental illness:

"She has two mental illnesses. These have been widely written about and studied and easily identifiable. While it may appear to the layman as either Bi-Polar disorder or even Paranoid-Schizophrenia with Delusional tendancies, it is actually a much harder disease to treat. On will start to diminish in just under two years, however the risiduals last a long time. The other is generally a hereditary disease, and when not, is usually contracted amongst college age adults.

The first being BDS, or Bush Derangement Syndrome. The second is known as Liberalism.

BDS is a relatively new disease and therefore hard to treat. Some methods consist of keeping sufferers away from gatherings with other Liberals, making them refrain from reading periodicles such as "The New York Times", not allowing them to listen to AM radio stations that carry any commentators that are failed commedians and keeping them away from mind altering drugs.

Liberalism has some of the same treatments, however there are some added treatments which are harsher on the patient. These require the patient to actually get an education in history as well as global politics. The require the use of facts, and not just feelings. They also require no singing of "kumbya" or other similar songs and song styles, the avoidance of any college profeesors wearing Birkenstocks, male professors in pony-tail, and refraining from speaking to anyone using the terms "Bushitler", "Bush Lied", "Code Pink", or any current derrogatory statements towards Conservatism and the Republican Party. They are also asked to avoid listening or reading anything by Howard Dean and watching CBS and CNN.

For more information on these and other Hippie diseases, visit:
Take care and remember...the Liberal or BDS sufferer you save, just may be your own son or daughter."

At 11:56 PM, Blogger Sulla said...

and that name, hosedragger.

That's going to cause some confusion.

Mind if we call you Bruce to keep it clear?

At 12:00 AM, Blogger Hosedragger said...

We call it "Earthquake Weather" when it has been really hot, then has a rapid cool down and then gets hot again. We usually get an earthquake after that. All the expanding and contracting of the earth. But yes, there is also a type of aura just before one as well.

At 12:11 AM, Blogger Hosedragger said...

Cardinal Fang will suffice. Now...bring me...the COMFY CHAIR!!!!!

At 7:48 PM, Blogger teresafahs said...

I was googling my name and it popped up on this blog. I'm Teresa Fahs, and Deborah Frisch was my neighbor in Pottstown, PA a few years ago. I'm pretty sure that the artist Deborah Frisch is a different person than Dr. Deborah Frisch that you are talking about here. I was working with her on marketing her paintings while I was working on my MBA in Philly. From what I'm reading here, I really hope these are 2 different people with the same name.


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