Should I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach? I will wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach. I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
Here's a crucial part of the difference: Ward Churchill and, to an even greater extent, Deb Frisch, are quite literally nobodies. OK, Churchill is an academic, but very few people knew who he was until his elevation by the right. But Frisch is just another internet kook.
Deborah Frisch. Uniting Left and Right since July 2006.
hosedragger - windows xp, ok. If you actually browse to the location mentioned, are there any files present? The system file is the OS rolodex, so to speak, kind of like the Grandpa in The Princess Bride checking his pockets before leaving the room. The fix might be as easy as doing a "repair" using the Windows XP cd I hope you still have.
Hosedragger - a restore point won't help if the files are actually missing. Which is why a Repair might actually bring back the OS files that Windows XP can't find. Create a restore point before running the repair, then restore to it after the repair is complete. The files for xp will now be there, but you'll also have your registry keys with the latest values too.
I had in mind a startup manager to uncheck everything allowed and reboot, rechecking startup items one at a time and rebooting until he found the problem.
Tedious, but without a better idea of the error message and behavior it is all I could think of.
This presupposes that the problem is something screwed up by the installation of some other piece of software, of course. This problem just started for him, so?
brendak - actually a safemode boot might be helpful to see if it's related to windows or not. but from what the error message sounds like, yeah, it sounds like OS files are missing.
hosedragger - in your c:\windows\system32\config folder, is there a system file?
Had Deb and I but met By some old ancient blog, I could have shown her not to bet what she said would be in a log!
"But Frisching towards infamy, Jail staring face to face, I commented at her and she at me, I Frisched her back aat her own place. I Frisched her back because – Because she was my foe, Just so – my foe of course she was; That's clear enough; although
"She thought she'd 'blog perhaps, Off-hand like – just as I – Was out of work – had sold her crap – No other reason why.
"Yes; quaint and curious Deb is! You Frisch a fellow down You'd Frisch if met where any blogis, Or help keep her from reknown."
woah - never had a fever where I couldn't tell if it was the laptop or ME that was overheating...I'm wrapped in a blanket, but have the AC is on...weird...
Sounds good to me. I hate when I have to find a way to fix them. My forte is writing the applications that break the 'puters (uhm, haha), not fixing them afterwards.
I mean wiping the hard drive isn't that bad, but I have a couple of months worth of things I haven't backed up...pictures and docs, and I will lose all my "favorites" and who knows what else. Oh yeah...al my MST3K movies.
brendak - seems like half my job is cleaning up after the programmers, no offense of course. I just know the programming culture at my company, and let me say, I'm a damn good analyst because of what they write.
I'm a good programmer more from the efforts of obsessive-compulsive QA testers at a software development company I worked at, than anything else.
I know what you mean, though. I spend a fair amount of time rewriting crap 'spagetti' code. I call it forensic programming so I don't call it 'idiots on parade' to the clients.
brendak - I started as a helpdesk analyst at my company, "testing, what's that?", so I spent a lot of time debugging code, then sending the fixes to the "real" programmers. I know exactly what you're talking about.
If you want to get both a clean reinstall AND a backup, here's a method that's worked for me.
1. Buy a new hard drive and an external hard drive enclosure. 2. Remove the old hard drive and replace it with the new. Put the old drive in the external enclosure. 3. Install Windows on the new drive. 4. connect the external drive, and copy over files as you find them. 5. Once you're convinced you've got everything you want, reformat the original drive, and use it as a backup.
This is not a quick fix, but works great over the long haul. That way if a system drive goes down, backing up isn't quite as painful.
Most of my files get offloaded to external drives, which get backed up to a third drive every few months and put in a safe.
But maybe I'm paranoid. I have close to 100,000 music files; my wife, over a million photos. (not saying what we do for a living.)
Hawksp, meter used to matter. But very few modern poets do the blank verse business well.
It's like rhyme, another neglected aspect of modern poetry. Robert Frost said that writing a poem that doesn't rhyme is like playing tennis without a net; on the other hand, I agree that English is not a great language for rhyme - and it tends, if you're strict about it, to lead to a sing-song sort of sound, reminding one of Dr. Suess.
The difference is, Dr. Seuss would surprise you now and again.
hosedragger - when it gets to the point where you can hit f8 for the bios options, do so, then scroll down to the boot order options. That's where you can change the boot order from hard drive to cd-rom. Reboot, and choose repair from there.
To slave a hard drive, you might need to buy some equipment since you've got a laptop hard drive, but there are several ways to do so, as long as you have more than one hard drive bay in your tower.
Pet - is this getting too much to do from a distance? Hose might be better off to take it to a company that specializes in fixing this.
My dad breaks his on average once a month. I can't always get out there quickly enough to suit him, so he has a repair company he goes to (practically on retainer at this point).
hosedragger - just read your comment about "reset"...yeah, that resets any changes to the bios (chipset), it doesn't work as a system restore (which actually requires that the OS boots first). See my instructions about changing the boot order to the cd-rom and have your xp cd in the tray when you reboot. a repair instead of reinstall might bring back those missing files.
brendak and hosedragger - yeah, trouble shooting in this thread probably isn't appropriate. Hosedragger, email me from my blogspot profile with whatever email or IM you have handy, and I can help you that way.
I'll put on my "this is Sanjaya from Mumbai" typing accent.
Looks like your system folder got corrupted. Have you tried going into the XP recovery console and try to copy the system folder from one of your XP system disks to that same location? That's what I would try to do. Anything to avoid a reformat.
But actually, a reformat may not be so bad. XP will detect that it's already there, so it will try to do a "refresh" rather than a reformat.
Hawk...she ain't coming tonight. She is sitting in the middle of the floor in her living room yelling at the voices to shut up will bawling relentlessly.
South(west)paw Comments: rabin's radical theorem warriordumot said... for the record, as far as i know, every post here allegedly from warriordumot really was from me, dr. deborah frisch of eugene, or.
i have not sockpuppeted here.
i have not posted or sockpuppeted at protein wisdom since i was served a temporary restraining order from colorado a few weeks ago.
now that i have this forum to discuss my grievances with mr. goldstein, i feel no need to comment about him at sadly no or the other cesspool blogs.
i am satisfied discussing my grievances with mr. goldstein here at sinner&sulla's place.
i ask once again:
does jeffrey todd goldstein sockpuppet here?
YES or NO?
Posted by Dave Walden at August 29, 2006 01:24 PM Thats totaly like the neocons to sockpuppet like minded progressive bloggers like ourselves when they find they are unable to silence are dissent. Phoney legal actions, sock puppeting, blog censoship, ect. Thats totaly par for there course.
She doesn't read. It is below her. She slithers and oozes onto a thread, spews forth her toxic bile and then calls people stupid and boring and leaves. Very pathologic of her
She is a coward. Reading other peoples post would make her have to see herself as the rest of the world does. It is just easier for the little brains to do what she does.
It started in July. They need to get rid of it and all that damn weak anime. There are so many other good things they could be showing. Bring back Mission Hill for instance.
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I am in the open! Free, unfettered, and able to set the tone.
Or not.
Let us smile, and sip wine while nibbling cheese, and resist the urge to break into Profrockian stanzas.
Prufrockian, damnit.
My fingers hate me.
dianna -
That's ok. I'll have to google it either way.
Should I part my hair behind?
Do I dare to eat a peach?
I will wear white flannel trousers,
and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing,
each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me.
- T.S. Eliot
Just for Deb
Brenda,
It's "The Love Song of Alfred J. Prufrock."
Opening line:
Let us go then, you and I,
As evening lies against the sky
like a patient etherized upon a table.
It's in the same collection as Preludes and The Wasteland.
The winter evening settles down
with smells of steaks in passageways.
Six o'clock.
(I'm a bit strange about Elliot, if you hadn't guessed.)
Found this tidbit through Technorati.
Here's a crucial part of the difference: Ward Churchill and, to an even greater extent, Deb Frisch, are quite literally nobodies. OK, Churchill is an academic, but very few people knew who he was until his elevation by the right. But Frisch is just another internet kook.
Deborah Frisch. Uniting Left and Right since July 2006.
Sorry, Denny.
Still at work.
Still learning the whole "running a POPULAR blog" thing.
Now hush before I ban the lot of ya.
(ooooh...REAL ULTIMATE POWER! HAHAHA!!)
I'll do better on the next one. Promise.
And folks ask why my other sites don't get much traffic.
No comments. no posts.
West and wewaxation at wast.
I guess I didn't resist well enough.
Anyone have news from Deb world?
Dianna - Prufrock has one of the best lines ever:
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
petrarchan - Yes! He uses that a couple times.
How about, "The eternal coatman holds my coat - and sniggers."
Dude:
Was that the same poem where the fog pads in on little cat feet?
Ask, and if I have knowledge, I will answer you, hawsp.
Sure...switch threads without telling me. I won't get a complex or anything.
hosedragger - windows xp, ok. If you actually browse to the location mentioned, are there any files present? The system file is the OS rolodex, so to speak, kind of like the Grandpa in The Princess Bride checking his pockets before leaving the room.
The fix might be as easy as doing a "repair" using the Windows XP cd I hope you still have.
Pet:
Windows XP. I have tried resetting, and restarting from an earlier point. No go.
Dude - I think that was The Wasteland
Joe, no.
Eliot was guilty of much, but not that.
And when the morning began to utter,
and you heard the swallows in the gutters,
you had such a vision of the street
as the street hardly comprehends;
Do I need to repost the Beatles over here? Or did it get seen?
Joe -
I think that was Carl Sandburg.
Joe -
I think that was Carl Sandburg.
F4...F4...F4...F4
Repir didn't work that I know of. I tried the way Microsoft had on their site, and it wouldn't let me copy anything
Smoke break - I'm not ignoring anyone.
Hosedragger:
I saw it and now it's stuck in my head!
Hosedragger - a restore point won't help if the files are actually missing. Which is why a Repair might actually bring back the OS files that Windows XP can't find. Create a restore point before running the repair, then restore to it after the repair is complete. The files for xp will now be there, but you'll also have your registry keys with the latest values too.
Oh yes, Carl Sandburg.
THE fog comes
on little cat feet.
It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.
doh - you guys are good, it was Sandburg
Can you email all that to me?
Petrarchan -
Re hose's problem:
I had in mind a startup manager to uncheck everything allowed and reboot, rechecking startup items one at a time and rebooting until he found the problem.
Tedious, but without a better idea of the error message and behavior it is all I could think of.
This presupposes that the problem is something screwed up by the installation of some other piece of software, of course. This problem just started for him, so?
Hosedragger -
I saw it - my favorite yet.
brendak - actually a safemode boot might be helpful to see if it's related to windows or not. but from what the error message sounds like, yeah, it sounds like OS files are missing.
hosedragger - in your c:\windows\system32\config folder, is there a system file?
Hawksp, Hardy was very much an autodidact, and he would on occasion ignore the concept of meter in an almost modern fashion.
"Ruined" is as close as he came to strict rhyme and meter that I'm aware of.
Had Deb and I but met
By some old ancient blog,
I could have shown her not to bet
what she said would be in a log!
"But Frisching towards infamy,
Jail staring face to face,
I commented at her and she at me,
I Frisched her back aat her own place.
I Frisched her back because –
Because she was my foe,
Just so – my foe of course she was;
That's clear enough; although
"She thought she'd 'blog perhaps,
Off-hand like – just as I –
Was out of work – had sold her crap –
No other reason why.
"Yes; quaint and curious Deb is!
You Frisch a fellow down
You'd Frisch if met where any blogis,
Or help keep her from reknown."
woah - never had a fever where I couldn't tell if it was the laptop or ME that was overheating...I'm wrapped in a blanket, but have the AC is on...weird...
Won't even boot into safe mode
hosedragger - same error message with safemode?
Petrarchan -
Sounds good to me. I hate when I have to find a way to fix them. My forte is writing the applications that break the 'puters (uhm, haha), not fixing them afterwards.
Yuppers
Dude:
Still chilling and aguing? Sweats? Teeth chattering?
I mean wiping the hard drive isn't that bad, but I have a couple of months worth of things I haven't backed up...pictures and docs, and I will lose all my "favorites" and who knows what else. Oh yeah...al my MST3K movies.
hosedragger - makes sense. when you last tried the repair steps, did you pop in the xp cd, then from start up change the boot order to cd?
It isn't what I khow I will lose, it's what I can't remember.
brendak - seems like half my job is cleaning up after the programmers, no offense of course. I just know the programming culture at my company, and let me say, I'm a damn good analyst because of what they write.
I can't get to start up. I get the "Gateway page, then it stalls forever, then the error message.
Ah, more Thomas Hardy!
Petrarchan:
Hope you feel better soon.
And a big goodnight to all! Sweet dreams, y'all. Don't bite the bedbugs.
Dude - no teeth chattering, the aches are gone, but still got chills, yeah.
Eri - thanks!
hosedragger - woah, so it doesn't even get to the point where you can hit f2 or f8 to view bios options?
hawksp - i was just about to say that he could try slaving the drive in his desktop! Might be the only way to get at the files.
Pet -
I'm a good programmer more from the efforts of obsessive-compulsive QA testers at a software development company I worked at, than anything else.
I know what you mean, though. I spend a fair amount of time rewriting crap 'spagetti' code. I call it forensic programming so I don't call it 'idiots on parade' to the clients.
Actually, it does
How do you slave it?
brendak - I started as a helpdesk analyst at my company, "testing, what's that?", so I spent a lot of time debugging code, then sending the fixes to the "real" programmers. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Hosedragger,
If you want to get both a clean reinstall AND a backup, here's a method that's worked for me.
1. Buy a new hard drive and an external hard drive enclosure.
2. Remove the old hard drive and replace it with the new. Put the old drive in the external enclosure.
3. Install Windows on the new drive.
4. connect the external drive, and copy over files as you find them.
5. Once you're convinced you've got everything you want, reformat the original drive, and use it as a backup.
This is not a quick fix, but works great over the long haul. That way if a system drive goes down, backing up isn't quite as painful.
Most of my files get offloaded to external drives, which get backed up to a third drive every few months and put in a safe.
But maybe I'm paranoid. I have close to 100,000 music files; my wife, over a million photos. (not saying what we do for a living.)
I go to F8 and do a reset from an earlier time, and it still won't start
Hawksp, meter used to matter. But very few modern poets do the blank verse business well.
It's like rhyme, another neglected aspect of modern poetry. Robert Frost said that writing a poem that doesn't rhyme is like playing tennis without a net; on the other hand, I agree that English is not a great language for rhyme - and it tends, if you're strict about it, to lead to a sing-song sort of sound, reminding one of Dr. Suess.
The difference is, Dr. Seuss would surprise you now and again.
looks like Hawk beat me to it. :)
hosedragger - when it gets to the point where you can hit f8 for the bios options, do so, then scroll down to the boot order options. That's where you can change the boot order from hard drive to cd-rom. Reboot, and choose repair from there.
To slave a hard drive, you might need to buy some equipment since you've got a laptop hard drive, but there are several ways to do so, as long as you have more than one hard drive bay in your tower.
I went and priced the new hard drive...that was around 180 bucks. Not sure about the external
once I get to the repair screen, what do I do then?
Pet - is this getting too much to do from a distance? Hose might be better off to take it to a company that specializes in fixing this.
My dad breaks his on average once a month. I can't always get out there quickly enough to suit him, so he has a repair company he goes to (practically on retainer at this point).
hosedragger - just read your comment about "reset"...yeah, that resets any changes to the bios (chipset), it doesn't work as a system restore (which actually requires that the OS boots first). See my instructions about changing the boot order to the cd-rom and have your xp cd in the tray when you reboot. a repair instead of reinstall might bring back those missing files.
Never mind, Pet and Hose.
Y'all seem to have it well in hand from right here.
brendak and hosedragger - yeah, trouble shooting in this thread probably isn't appropriate. Hosedragger, email me from my blogspot profile with whatever email or IM you have handy, and I can help you that way.
I'll put on my "this is Sanjaya from Mumbai" typing accent.
Hawk -
It's perfect! Simple, elegent, and achieves the desired objective.
A+
OK...I am doing it as we go. I am in the "windows setup" screen
From another thread:
hose:
Looks like your system folder got corrupted. Have you tried going into the XP recovery console and try to copy the system folder from one of your XP system disks to that same location? That's what I would try to do. Anything to avoid a reformat.
But actually, a reformat may not be so bad. XP will detect that it's already there, so it will try to do a "refresh" rather than a reformat.
hawksp - aside from memory buffer leaks inherent in basic, it looks like a great way to fill up a hard drive with chimp tar!
Hawk:
That is frickin' hilarious!
Oh man BASIC! Bringin' back memories.
Done. Pet, go check your email
hosedragger - choose "reinstall" intead of "new install" and that should do it.
Sorry all. I just got excited at maybe fixing my laptop after three weeks
hosedragger - got yer email. "accessing...accessing..."
hosedragger - you're in a good state. choose repair, and I swear you'll be booting into Windows after this.
Dude - you've been holding out on this community. Don't they know that you're a bigger geek with computers than I am?
oh man - I'm watching Family Guy on Cartoon Network...freakin' hilarious...
Dude:
We-ell, it just never really came up. Besides, my gift is figuring stuff out instead of remembering stuff.
this episode even has a reference to Count Chocula cereal...not making it up.
Dude:
Baby Stewie Rocks!
"You've been my nemesis since you dragged me from your wretched womb!"
OK...chose repair and am sitting at windows dos prompt
dude - my talent is figuring stuff out too, but the job makes me write it down, for some reason.
Hawk -
It's not the size of the program, it's how you use it.
hahahahahahahahahaha
Hawk...that's plan B. If I can get it fixed...that's the best option
Don't spoil it. Adult Swim doesn't come on here in the Hippie state for another hour and a half.
Brenda:
No snort in the middle? I thought it was funnier than that.
Hawk...she ain't coming tonight. She is sitting in the middle of the floor in her living room yelling at the voices to shut up will bawling relentlessly.
Joe -
It seemed immodest to snort at my own joke.
hosedragger - I'm going to keep the rest of the steps on the email tip, 'k?
hosedragger - you've probably seen this ep of fg anyway, but dayum, in the context of the frischster...it was too much.
Seen it? I own them all, including the Stewie movie, outakes and First season of American Dad
Nothing like Frankenberry taking the Count to court eh?
Oh. Blaise Pascal is the source of her madness?
I found Penses interesting in college. I guess I'll have to go back and see what in Blaise's thoughts makes one go batfrisch.
hosedragger - it was captain crunch suing count chocula for slander...wow...the similarities here...
Hawk -
I'm sorry. I should have remembered how sensitive you are.
kissykissykissy
Hawk:
Is Ms. Frisch railing like Captain Ahab hunting for Moby Dick?
Hawk
Do you mean the poster, or the character?
/pedantic mode
Did anyone notice that Special Deb put her amazon ad in the middle of a post?
Yep, she's going to be raking in the bucks with that!
hawksp - sacre blue blaises
BrendaK, it was just a little conspicuous, yes. But we already know she's not precisely tech-savvy.
Oh, and I bow down to the mastery displayed. I hadn't a clue.
Hawk, someone with sense.
I was Soviet Studies.
aw - you were playing at casa de frisch?
Hawk -
Yes.
Methinks someone missed the point
South(west)paw
Comments: rabin's radical theorem
warriordumot said...
for the record, as far as i know, every post here allegedly from warriordumot really was from me, dr. deborah frisch of eugene, or.
i have not sockpuppeted here.
i have not posted or sockpuppeted at protein wisdom since i was served a temporary restraining order from colorado a few weeks ago.
now that i have this forum to discuss my grievances with mr. goldstein, i feel no need to comment about him at sadly no or the other cesspool blogs.
i am satisfied discussing my grievances with mr. goldstein here at sinner&sulla's place.
i ask once again:
does jeffrey todd goldstein sockpuppet here?
YES or NO?
Posted by Dave Walden at August 29, 2006 01:24 PM
Thats totaly like the neocons to sockpuppet like minded progressive bloggers like ourselves when they find they are unable to silence are dissent. Phoney legal actions, sock puppeting, blog censoship, ect. Thats totaly par for there course.
Posted by Dean04Prez at August 29, 2006 03:41 PM
Hawk:
She still hasn't mastered point and click.
Hawk...
She doesn't read. It is below her. She slithers and oozes onto a thread, spews forth her toxic bile and then calls people stupid and boring and leaves. Very pathologic of her
hawksp - yep, like I posted last night to wdm, she should really invest some time in a speed reading course. goodness.
dianna -
Mastery? 'Cause, it wasn't me. I haven't commented on her site today.
I thought it would be fun to just let her go and watch her move that ad piece up into each new post.
She is a coward. Reading other peoples post would make her have to see herself as the rest of the world does. It is just easier for the little brains to do what she does.
now when did pee wee's playhouse show up on Toon?
She must still be talking to Mumsie. After all, bills are due.
hose -
She reads the comments. It's just that all Deb thought must first pass through the Deb They're All Stupid mental screen.
Two new threads, folks, including one dedicated to technical issue.
Hey - if Hosedragger's screen goes dark, we ALL suffer. :)
It started in July. They need to get rid of it and all that damn weak anime. There are so many other good things they could be showing. Bring back Mission Hill for instance.
sulla - hosedragger and I are going through email on this one.
Moved to Tech Thread. Muuuuch faster
Nope, Ahab's not me or mine.
On that note, I'm getting some dinner, walking dogs, and heading for bed.
Take care.
'Night Dianna!
G'night, dianna! Don't let the beddebs bite.
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